Try Electrovert they have a video on the subject. Talk to Lisa in the Dallas office its just down the road. Bob Willis Electronic Presentation Services 2 Fourth Avenue, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 4HA. England. Tel: (44) 01245 351502 Fax: (44) 01245 496123 Home Page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bwillis Email: [log in to unmask]