Suzanne, The main philosophy behind J-STD-001B is process control. Therefore, if you are not recording the rework that you are doing is your process truly in control or are you masking the soldering results to look good on paper. From my point of view ( And this is strictly my opinion) you should be recording every defect and process variance that happens within the cell to improve the process within the cell. In other words I would count all defects, no matter who catches them, use the information to determine if the process is in control and to improve the process for future product. Tom Carroll Hughes Aircraft Company (310) 334-4757 [log in to unmask] _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: J-Std-001B work cell touchup From: [log in to unmask] at CCGATE Date: 5/9/96 12:01 PM We are reviewing converting Mil-Std-2000A and some old 454 contracts to the J-std-001. Also all new contracts would require this spec. We have a team of 8 people from different facets within our organization looking at a matrix of differences as well as questions of intepretations. I would like some input on defect observation from people in industry. If you work in a work cell environment with TQC checks and someone in the work cell catches a defect do you count that defect or do you count it when it is discovered in the next work cell. An example would be at the wave solder machine how do people feel about the acceptability that hand touchup done within the wave solder cell without recording it as rework is permitted? I guess we're expanding our debate outside of our 8 person team and would like your input. Thanks, Suzanne Nachbor [log in to unmask] The following is an attached File item from cc:Mail. It contains information that had to be encoded to ensure successful transmission through various mail systems. To decode the file use the UUDECODE program. --------------------------------- Cut Here --------------------------------- begin 644 rfc822.txt M1G)O;2!496-H3F5T+7)E<75E<W1`:7!C+F]R9PT*6"U%;G9E;&]P92U&<F]M M.B!496-H3F5T+7)E<75E<W1`:7!C+F]R9PT*4F5C96EV960Z(&9R;VT@<VEM M;VXN:7!C+F]R9R`H,38X+C$Q,RXR-"XV-"D-"B!B>2!%1$5.+DA!0RY#3TT@ M*%!-1$8@5C0N,RTW(",U.#@T*2!I9"`\,#%)-$DQ53))1$)+,#`P5$--0$5$ M14XN2$%#+D-/33X[(%1H=2P-"B`Y($UA>2`Q.3DV(#$Q.C4Y.C0U(%!35`T* M4F5C96EV960Z(&9R;VT@:7!C+F]R9R!B>2!S:6UO;BYI<&,N;W)G('9I82!3 M3510("@Y-#`X,38N4T=)+C@N-BXY+SDT,#0P-BY31TDI#0H@:60@3D%!,34U M.#8[([log in to unmask]@,3DY-B`Q,SHU,SHS,2`M,#<P,`T*4F5C96EV960Z M(&)Y(&EP8RYO<F<@*%-M86EL,RXQ+C(X+C$@(S(I(&ED(&TP=4A85#4M,#`P M,%-90SL@5&AU+`T*(#D@36%Y(#DV(#$P.C$W($-$5`T*4F5S96YT+61A=&4Z M(%1H=2P@,#D@36%Y(#$Y.38@,3,Z-3,Z,S$@+3`W,#`-"D1A=&4Z(%1H=2P@ M,#D@36%Y(#$Y.38@,#DZ-#@Z,#D@*S`X,#`@*%4I#0I297-E;G0M9G)O;3H@ M5&5C:$YE=$!I<&,N;W)G#0I&<F]M.B!.86-H8F]R(%-U>F%N;F4@/&YA8VAB M;W)?<W5Z86YN94!M;C$U+6=W+FUA=F0N:&]N97EW96QL+F-O;3X-"E-U8FIE M8W0Z($HM4W1D+3`P,4(@=V]R:R!C96QL('1O=6-H=7`-"E)E<V5N="US96YD M97(Z(%1E8VA.970M<F5Q=65S=$!I<&,N;W)G#0I297-E;G0M<V5N9&5R.B!4 M96-H3F5T+7)E<75E<W1`:7!C+F]R9PT*5&\Z(&EP8R!T96-H;F5T(#QT96-H M;F5T0&EP8RYO<F<^#0I297-E;G0M;65S<V%G92UI9#H@/")S3W9Z3"XP+G9- M02XU;U=A;B)`:7!C/@T*365S<V%G92UI9#H@/&XQ,S@P-#@U,#DS+C,R.#8Q M0&UN,34M9W<N;6%V9"YH;VYE>7=E;&PN8V]M/@T*6"U-86EL97(Z($UA:6PJ M3&EN:R!33510+4U3(#,N,"XR#0I#;VYT96YT+71R86YS9F5R+65N8V]D:6YG M.B`W0DE4#0I/;&0M4F5T=7)N+5!A=&@Z(#QN86-H8F]R7W-U>F%N;F5`;6XQ M-2UG=RYM879D+FAO;F5Y=V5L;"YC;VT^#0I8+4UA:6QI;F<M3&ES=#H@/%1E M8VA.971`:7!C+F]R9SX@87)C:&EV92]L871E<W0O,SDX-PT*6"U,;V]P.B!4 B96-H3F5T0&EP8RYO<F<-"E!R96-E9&5N8V4Z(&QI<W0-"@`` end