I think you have not gotten far enough into the minds of a marketer. Setting up a separate net for sales pitches would do no good. The technical crowd, represented by TechNet, would probably not subscribe or log into such a net. We have better things to do. So the marketers send the message over TechNet, so they can go directly to their "market". The only way to stop it is a few polite messages that this forum is not open to such marketing. If the polite messages fail to get the point across, then Spam the fool. Doug Pauls CSL