To IPC, This Listserver is great but it has gotten too big. I can only read my mail in the evenings and have reached 30 messages a day mostly from here. My personal interests are in cleaning, drying, fluxes, solders, and other chemistries involved with the electronics industry. Maybe separate groups can spin off of the main group ? Anyone else have comments? If things continue, I may have to sign off by NEPCON west. Stan Seelig Seelig and Associates, Inc. [log in to unmask]