In mid-April, Peterson submitted the following inquiry to Technet > Does anyone have an opinion, comments or data to support a rumor I heard? > I'm told that tantalum caps can fail shorted if required to supply a > current surge. To prevent this failure aluminum electrolytics are > preferred on digital boards. > I thought Aluminum electrolytics weren't very stable in capacitance over > temp and were not preferred to tantalum for that reason as well as size > (more Capacitance per volume in Ta than Al). > Gary P. --- > Gary D. Peterson > _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ SANDIA NATIONAL LABORATORIES _/_/_/ > _/ _/_/ _/ _/ P.O. Box 5800, M/S 0503 _/_/ > _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Albuquerque, NM 87185-0503 > _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ > _/ _/ _/_/ _/ Phone: (505)844-6980 _/ _/_/ _/ >_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ FAX: (505)844-2925 _/ _/_/ _/ > E-Mail: [log in to unmask] _/_/_/ Ed Nieckula, of Rockwell - Autonetics' Components Engineering Group has kindly submitted the following in response. I'm sure what you are referring to, or what you heard, is a shortcoming of Solid Electrolyte Tantalum Capacitors. They have historically been known to dislike low impedance circuits where they are subjected to fast rising charge or discharge currents. The problem is somewhat compounded if they are used in parallel. When one in the chain temporarily shorts, it cannot heal the fault site in time to absorb the charge. All the energy in the circuit including the source will then discharge into the failing device and cause a catastrophic failure. The solution to this low impedance circuit problem has been tantalum foils or wet slug tantalum devices. The wet devices can heal the fault sites quickly and prevent catastrophic shorting. Today, unfortunately, tantalum foils are no longer available. The last major source, Sprague Electric, no longer builds tantalum foils. The foil market has been declining for years and Sprague finally decided to toss the towel in. Although somewhat controversial, wet slugs are the best bet for low impedance circuit applications. Some applications are using switch mode ceramic multi-stack capacitors. Primarily in high(er) frequency circuits. They are still rather new and have little field history on major programs. You are correct about aluminum electrolytic capacitors. They need to be vented to prevent overpressure from Hydrogen gas buildup and are therefore subject to loss of water in the electrolyte and eventually dry out. This leads to high dissipation factor(losses) and unstable capacitance. We do not use Aluminum devices in airborne equipment. A NASA study is underway trying to improve the performance of Aluminum devices primarily for weight savings but I have not heard any encouraging news. Hope this helps, Ed Nieckula 714/762-0702 ***************************************************** Name: David T. Novick Internet: [log in to unmask] Phone: 714/762-5522 Fax: 714/762-2415 or 714/762-4493 *****************************************************