Well what goes around comes around. Nothing is new it just gets re- born. The spray fluxer that was mentioned in the mail is a flick fluxer, try saying that after a few beers. It was originally and still is on the "Kirston" Jet soldering machine sold in the UK by Turner Electronics. The technique has also appeared on other machines, you get the same effect when trying to paint a ceiling with a brush the paint goes all over the place. I would question that the coverage is as good a good spray fluxer, but it is cheap. Bob Willis Electro inc Presentation Services 2 Fourth Avenue, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 4HA. England. Tel: (44) 01245 351502 Fax: (44) 01245 496123 Home Page: http:// NO NOT YET IT ALL DOWN TO Compuserve !!!!!