Dougal Stewart, > On another issue, I always get confused when people talk about FR3, > G10, G200, CEM 1, CEM3 etc. I know what FR4 is - glass fibre > reinforced epoxy laminate - but could someone put the other > materials into similar English for me? Has anyone responded to you on this yet, I would like similar feedback too. I fear I may have missed it through the mud-slinging going on. I got a little carried away with the DELETE key. Oh, by the way, do you have an email address? I'm putting together a web page to educate and expose the world to the benifits of discrete-wire technology and your company is listed as a European supplier, so I would like to include a link for you to get inqueries. We'll be up in a few days at http://www.ait-atl.com For any further information or updates on high density, high reliability discrete wire or the web page contact me at: -- Robert Blomstrom Advanced Interconnection Technology, Inc. - Atlanta Phone: 404-938-9387 x226 3289 Montreal Industrial Way, Tucker, Ga. 30084 fax: 404-934-9885 e-mail address: [log in to unmask]