Al, I don't believe it's a simple question of who is making more or less money. The fabricators are sqeezed to be competitive in their pricing. When they ask you to do something to improve the yields, they are attempting to overcome a loss and also give your purchasing people the best price break. More often, when they ask for a concession, they are already contemplating raising the cost, and are attempting to find a way not to. There does come a point where the fabricator cannot cost effectively produce a board. That is the time when he will cease to accept your low yield board. When a board design narrows the paying field (availability of fabricators), the cost inherently goes up. Regards, Gary Ferrari Tech Circuits (203) 269-3311