Eat more chik'n! Energy independance through dairy and feedlot methane capture! At 09:05 AM 8/26/2014, Robert Kondner wrote: >Hi, > >I must agree with Richard, just last night I was in my Dad's silo fixing a >240 line that had come loose. Dusty, dirty place full of ground up corn >stalks, leaves and corn. All fermented into a nice silage except for a >little mold that grows on the top between feedings. Or, if the 240 line is >down for a few days in the summer a lot more mold. But cows eat it either >way. > >Cows eat stuff you would not believe and turn it into high grade protein. >And our cars need even cleaner fuel sources! > >Let's hear it for the cows! > >Bob K. > >-----Original Message----- >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:32 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo) > >Karen, very true. However, cows each much more than corn, so the efficiency >cycle is much higher than you think. >And Pete's number of 40% for ethanol production was true about 4-5 years >ago, but I believe today it is more like 20-25% and dropping rapidly. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellefsen >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:51 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo) > >Ethanol from corn is a poor use of resources. Ethanol from sugar cane is >much better, but cane only grows in the tropics. > >Using corn to feed cows is also a poor use of resources. It takes 8 kg of >corn to produce 1 kg of beef, this is not efficient. >In addition, ruminant livestock produces about 28% of human-related >methane. > >Karen Tellefsen > > > > >From: Pete <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]>, >Date: 08/26/2014 10:13 AM >Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo) >Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> > > > >Some good answers here, led me to do some more research > >About 1/3 of the US corn crop goes towards livestock feed. >13% is exported. >40% is used for ethanol production >That leaves 14% for food and beverage (including oils, syrups, sugars) > >Ethanol is being used in some cases to replace MTBE, to increase octane >rating. Why? Because of it's resistance to ignition. This is very tiny >percentage of the gasoline blend. E10 and E85 are ethanol as an attempt to >replace fossil fuels. However, that resistance to ignition, when used at >10% or 86% is what makes it an inefficient fuel, increasing consumption by >3% or 25% respectively. It takes one unit of fossil fuel to generate >1.3 units of (less efficient) ethanol fuel. > >Since 1980, the ethanol industry has received $45B in government subsidies. > >The windmills don't seem so bad anymore. > >Pete > > > > >***** Please note that my E-Mail address has changed ***** > >____________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com >____________________________________________________________________ > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] >______________________________________________________________________ > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] >______________________________________________________________________ > > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] >______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________