Where is the hub of cosmic space? Where is your fixed registration point? Sorry, your analogy does not satisfy me. If the helix speculation (not even a hypothesis) were true, everything in the universe would describe a spiral, right down to the electrons round the atoms in your brain (and I mean before you reach your fridge, not after) Btian On 16.06.2013 17:05, Inge Hernefjord wrote: > Hmmm.....Let Sun be the hub in your bycycle wheel and the air valve be > Earth, then place the bycycle on one of the blades of a wind power > station. In this system, the air valve will�touch a switch and a lamp, > both are fixed�to the bycycle frame. By doing continous measurements, > you can see that the hub, the air valve and the�lamp do not change > position�vs each other.�Each time it passes the switch the lamp blinks > and an immediate vector measurement is done. The computing says that the > air valve rotates perfectly around the hub. To get the air valve > deviate, you would need to manipulate the strong forces (the spokes) > that keep the wheel together as one and the same physical status. Even a > very small deviation of the spokes would cause dangerous situations, > even risk that the whole bycycle collapses. Very accurate measurements > would reveal microscopical changes due to wear in the bearings and > fatigue in the metals, but over shorter intervals, the changes are > neglidgible. If you registered the air valve position vs. time, �from a > fixed position on the windmill's blade, you would get xyz values and a > time axis. If these were presented per second, you would get the > imagination of a spiral. If you place the windmill on the deck of a > carrier that runs in a circle with a fixed registration point deck vs > windmill blade, you'd get a spiral too. You get a small spiral modified > by a larger spiral modified by a larger spiral etc. The longer from the > bycycle system, the larger screen is needed, if you don't use a > exponential scale. In the video, it seems as if the spectator > (registering unit) is placed in Orion. The video does not represent > physical maps for orientation but course of events. > � > For me, all this is rather meaningless, I'm more interested in finding > my way to the fridge. I'm sure I never go in spirals to find it but make > very regular returns to exactly same fridgerator. > > > On 16 June 2013 01:57, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > How do you define position in universal space? I realise that > helical movement sounds logical but it ain't if you think about it > and astronomers deny this speculation. Astronomy is far too complex > a science for little me to even start to understand. > > Don't forget that gravity is still a theory but don't sit under an > apple tree! > > Brian > > > On 16.06.2013 11:32, Inge Hernefjord wrote: > > Awesome! Never been thinking that way. So, for a observer with a > fixed > position in the universe, our planet never never returns to the same > position. The conclusion is that NOTHING returns to same place, > because all > systems move. > > Inge > > > On 15 June 2013 22:48, Pat Goodyear <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Want to see a cool concept of our solar system and our > galaxy check out in > youtube �the videos by DJSanhu here is one link > http://www.youtube.com/watch?*__*v=C4V-ooITrws > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=C4V-ooITrws><http://www.__youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-__ooITrws > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws>> �Gives one > something to think about. > > > > pat > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stadem, Richard D. wrote: > > � This was a great string until it got gory. :-) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Ed Popielarski > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 1:37 PM > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions > > Oh my, this is starting to sound more and more like it > has been narrated > by Morgan Freeman! > > When we consider that the universe is indeed expanding > and that expansion > is accelerating, there is proof the system is dynamic > and always in motion. > This leads us to the existence of dark matter and dark > energy, this tightly > coupled to the TOE (theory of everything), but c'mon > guys, it's Friday and > I really don't want to think that hard! > > But, therein lies indirect proof that Al Gore invented > the internet. 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Weight and mass only exist with respect to > gravity and > movement (time). In space there is no gravity, so if you > hang the > individual planets in a big basket, they will weigh > nothing with respect to > space as a whole, or they will weigh a varying weight > with respect to where > they are in the continuum as related to the mass of > other bodies traveling > nearby. But nobody knows the constant of time (Tk)with > respect to the > universe, ie, if the great God Inge were to hold the > scale, is he standing > still in the continuum, or is there, in fact, no static > universe, such that > Inge is never standing still, but time revolves around > and through him? Or > does the great God Inge only think he is standing still, > while the universe > in its ultimate infinity whirls around him as if he was > but a piece of dust? > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:47 PM > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions > > Deer Tecnet, > > Hou can you saj so and so meny kilos. On scool I teached > myselv that > somesing weiht becaose of it is draw to the centre of > earth, a hazelnutt, a > ass, about or a women, all are relatez to pull powder of > eart. Now, watt is > this plannet �related too? The eart must be in a > ballance cup or hang in a > spring, then yo can saj hou much this plannet weighted. > > Eina > > > On 14 June 2013 05:00, Steven Creswick > <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > � Good one Denny! > > > Have you been dipping into Doug's Dew? > > > For the earth-moon distance, it would be a matter of > calculating a new > Lagrangian point for a closer moon-earth orbit - > right? �At the Lagrangian > Pt, her body would be equally attracted to the earth > and moon, so she might > have to jump just a bit to get on the moon-side of > the L Pt. > > Must be some equations for that. > > Steve C > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:43 AM > To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions > > 1. Eartha massa issa 5.972E24 kg > > 2, Canna fly me to da moona - es only inna song. > > Denny > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > To: TechNet <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Fri, Jun 14, 2013 5:11 am > Subject: [TN] NTC: too coestions > > > Gud Morning, > it was Fridai and I had too cuestions. Thei are not > imported. For you > not mportent. > 1. How much did this plannet weighted? > 2. How cluse must Moon came to the our �plannet to > pull me avay so I can > ly? > It was not very intresting to knew. Thank for a goud > anser. 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