Mark, We also use MyData machines running low volume protos. There are 3 My9 machines, a My100, and I think another My100 in the works. We feed from reels and some custom laser cut cardboard trays. All jobs are kitted, we do about 15 jobs a day. Each job being 5 to 25 boards. Electrical test on the MyData is not used. We do a lot of component verification using the LCD test tweezers. These are easy to use on parts in trays and not too bad for parts in reels. (Once the reel is loaded it is easy to test the next part. The "Big" problem is getting part orientation in the tape feeders correct and making sure the reel feeder setup matches what the machine was told. Tray files are built in software and downloaded, so those are "Perfect". (Do you believe me on that, if so I have the bridge in New York you might want to buy.) Of all the problems these are not our major issues. Getting good paste, making sure the correct package file is selected, and a pile of other items all exist and need to be monitored. We synthesize, in software, the Component Library for each job. At the end of each job the entire machine component library is deleted. That complete source of problems is eliminated. Also, by tracking what customers use and how their parts map you can eliminate a lot of problems. MyData machine don't have a lot of spare feeder positions so I would think it would be difficult to keep a machine with a "Normal" setup. If you are a captive shop you might keep a few reels in place. But customer either supply or specify parts and then you really need to setup and use these. If you like I have a 57 page manual on the main job coding toll. Bob K. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bass, Mark Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] PICK AND PLACE ELECTRICAL TEST Folks, I'm doing a little research and am trying to find out what other people do regarding Pick and Place, and would like your input; For those of you who run a Pick and Place machine, do you utilise electrical test/verification? What Pick and Place machines do you use (if you wish to say of course) If so do you test/verify every component placed (R,C,D's) or just a few per reel? If you don't carry out electrical test/verification how do you guarantee the correct part has been fitted do you use Bar Coding, Goods In inspection or other means? Also do you kit your jobs or is your line permanently set up to cater for all cards assembled? Many thanks in advance. Cheers, Mark Mark Bass Manufacturing Engineer Aero Engine Controls York Road, Birmingham, B28 8LN | Tel. +44 (0)121 607 3980 | Fax. +44 (0)121 607 3975 | Mobile +44 (0)7825 282 437 Email [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> | Web: www.aeroenginecontrols.com<http://www.aeroenginecontrols.com> | Aero Engine Controls is part of the Rolls-Royce Group ______________________________________________________________________ Aero Engine Controls is part of the Rolls-Royce Group, whose legal entity is Rolls-Royce Engine Control Systems Limited which is registered in England. Registered office at Moor Lane, PO Box 31, Derby, DE24 8BJ. Company number 6686268, UK VAT number GB 939 396 075 ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________