Ken, You may also wish to consider a BSET, as it seems you have quite a bit of the EE knowledge already. This could help you "round out" your skillsets to be able to function as a designer, as a layout engineer, and as a Design Program Engineer. Good engineers with a design background who can also perform a ladder network, create a machine program, etc, are extremely valuable. But by all means take the CID+. We all wish you good luck. dean -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ken barton Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:46 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Thanks! Thank you all for the excellent replies & suggestions. I apologise for not taking the time to reply individually. I am going to take the CID/+, I feel this can only help in the short run to sharpen me up a bit. In the long run I believe I will also embark on some type of EE training/degree. While in some way I agree with one comment about EE's will soon be performing all the layout work, I have also heard this for the last 25 years as being "imminent", so we shall see what comes to pass as I hedge my bets. Again, your input is most appreciated. BTW, I lurk here & learn constantly. Ken ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________