ne sais pas, ne comprend pas aussi Inge On 2 April 2012 23:58, GRIVON Arnaud <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Envoyé à partir de mon Windows phone d'Orange > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De: Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]> > Env: lundi 2 avril 2012 22:29 > À: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > Objet: Re: [TN] NTC- unmeltable solder > > > Inge, > > I prefer mine. I make it about 80% whole wheat, 20% rye flour. > > Not like that pasty white, nutritionally void stuff we get in the stores > over here. > > Have a loaf in the oven now. Makes the house smell great. > > Makes fantastic grille cheese sandwiches!! > > > But I do cut off the crust when stuffing into water pipes. I forget who it > was that said it, but even the slightest amount of water in the pipe will > render it unsolderable. I have used the bread stopper trick myself. Just > take the aerators off the faucets for a while... > > Steve C > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:49 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] NTC- unmeltable solder > > Mother's pride or what kind? > Inge > > On 2 April 2012 12:38, Gerald Bogert > <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > > April 2, 2012 > > > > The problem may not have anything to do with the solder used. The pipe > > could have some water remaining in it or a valve upstream of where you > > are soldering could have small leak. Any amount of water leak can > > make it difficult if not impossible to make a solder joint. Old > > plumbers trick by putting small piece of bread into the pipe may stop > > the leak long enough to make the solder joint. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 4:57 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [TN] NTC- unmeltable solder > > > > Hi Blair - one other possible reason but lower on the possibility > > scale is that the solder joint, if old enough, had converted itself > > into a tin/copper joint rather than copper and solder joint. Most > > solders contain a low melting element - i.e. lead, bismuth, etc. - so > > the solder joints should go molten but if you had a high tin alloy > > with minimal lower melting point element addition, you would be trying to > "melt" > > copper/tin intermetallic which isn't going to happen. Mike's or > > Chuck's responses are more probable explanations for what you > experienced. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Blair Hogg <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> > > 03/29/2012 12:20 PM > > Please respond to > > TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to > > Blair Hogg <[log in to unmask]> > > > > > > To > > <[log in to unmask]> > > cc > > > > Subject > > [TN] NTC- unmeltable solder > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The recent discussions on rework issues reminded me of a while back > > where I needed to repair a leaky water pipe in my home. Took a chunk > > of the ceiling out, got out the plumbers torch, drained the pipes and > > started to heat. No matter what I did to the joint that was leaking I > > could not get > > > > anything to melt. Had to cut the pipe on either side of the elbow > > joint and patch in a new section. Even afer I took it out I could not > > get it apart. Not sure what happened to the solder but something > > changed it to make it unmeltable. > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud > > service. > > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or > > [log in to unmask] > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or > > [log in to unmask] > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. 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