My fluorescence spectrometer does not detect silver (Ag) in the alloy. It cannot detect anything below Aluminum. I could perfomr an EDX in the sem on a sample, and we are asking our vendors what they use. Like you I had difficulty believing they would be using pure tin, because of the dissolution of copper during the plate. The copper would quickly poison the bath and change the alloy composition. SN100C loungs like it might fit me ydata. The copper wopuld be overlooked by the XRF Spectrometer because it used an x-ray exciter beam.and the Germanium is in very low amounts and could easily be missed it the tech is not carefully looking for it. Thanks, madk mark Mark Woolley |PTRL Laboratory | Avaya | 1300 West 120th Ave | Westminster, CO 80234 USA | Voice (Lab): (303) 538-2166 | email: [log in to unmask] | -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Amol Kane Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:09 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Lead Free HASL and whiskers I would think LF HASL would be SAC, or a high tin alloy (similar to SN100C). Not pure tin Amol Kane | Process Engineer Catalyst Manufacturing Services, Inc. 941 Route 38, Owego NY 13827 Phone: (607) 687-7669 Extn 349 | Website: www.catalystems.com -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Honsowetz, Eric Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Lead Free HASL and whiskers Good Morning Mark, The classic answer ... it depends ... Is there an industry standard for Pb-free HASL? IPC does not appear to have a specification. The drawing or procurement document might define the material used ... It would be expected that the HASL would be a common soldering material which would not be pure Sn. Pure Sn would probably be a difficult material to use for HASL due to its tendency to react with Cu. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Woolley, Mark D. (Mark) Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:19 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Lead Free HASL and whiskers I have a question now that our company is beginning to use lead free HASL as a solderability finish. I am seeing a few (<5%) filled vias on each board I examine. Does anyone know if the manufacturer's are using pure tin, and if they are has anyone looked at tin whiskers from HASL filled vias? 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