I'd worry as to why there is no heel fillet. To me that is an indicator that some root cause exists which may have unpleasant reliability consequences. Only when you can prove that the root cause is benign can you proceed. Zero toe fillet is relatively normal. Rex Rex Waygood Technical Manager Hansatech EMS provides value manufacturing through engineering and quality Hansatech EMS Limited Benson Road Nuffield Industrial Estate Poole Dorset BH17 0RY +44 (0)1202 338200 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Bavaro Sent: 24 August 2011 21:58 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Gull Wing Lead - no heel fillet Hypothetical situation: Gull wing lead, land pattern error, zero heel (also zero toe) fillet. Hardware would not meet Class 3 workmanship requirements. An equation is being used to decide if the pad to gull wing lead lap solder joint is adequate to survive the intended thermal cycling environment. This would have been a question for Werner but I am sure there are others here who can shed some light on this for me. I know that part of the justification for why we have set our IPC standards where they are is partly based on years of testing. How could a mathematical calculation such as "Steinberg equation" justify a lack of Class 3 gull wing lead heel fillet? Any help is appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ This message and any attachments are solely for the use of the addressee and may contain L-3 proprietary information that may also be defined as USG export controlled technical data. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, use or distribution of its content is prohibited. Please notify the sender by reply e-mail and immediately delete this message and any attachments. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 16.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives For additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 16.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives For additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------