Just think about changing your carreer path at 55 or later and start over in another field with little or no experience. You wouldn't even quality for an education grant at that age to go back to school. There are no serious plans to change tax laws to bring jobs back to the united States. With and with all the intellectual jobs going overseas, unless your a medical specialist your up the creek. Even these people will be at risk with President Obama. Obama wants to fix the salaries of doctors and lump specialists into the regular ranks of doctors under his Universal Health Plan. These specialists will leave the country or start a private clinic if they can get them passed as they did in Canada. Remember the Canadian national health plan is for the poor and middle class. The fact that they have private hospitals clinics for the rich and the politicians is not advertised. The politicians have voted to exclude themselves from the proposed Universal Health Care, with assigned numbers based on age and years of services and medical health in order to reduce the costs. By the time your number comes up you'll be dead or no longer a candidate to have the operation because your health declined too much under the new system. This what they mean by the legal death squad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Upton" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:51:54 AM Subject: Re: [TN] laid off Not sure if this really should stay on the reflector or not... Is hard to say. On one hand, payment is for services rendered. OTOH, there is some implication--the company wants to keep your expertise, and you want to keep your (future) income, so hopefully there is an implied contract for furthered employment. It's touchy feely, but I'm not sure if we'd like the results if it was fully spelled out (in the form of a multi-chaptered book of rules and regulations). Going back to an earlier post, for myself, in some ways, being at the other end of the spectrum (younger-ish), I look at the ongoing recession as a good sign that I oughta pay my house off, and get into a position where, if need be, I could live on half of what I make. 'cuz the odds are good that a couple decades from now--well, who knows what will happen. In some ways I almost expect now to have to change careers, since I'm not sure if a company will want to pay for my decades of experience (when I'm in my 50's or 60's). Certainly not some company that I want to join (after being in the unemployed ranks). In some ways, I wonder if I should just assume I will have to start a new career path later on in life. Maybe I would have an easier time starting a new career, rather than looking for a job that uses my decades of experience. Shawn Upton, KB1CKT Test Engineer Allegro MicroSystems, Inc [log in to unmask] 603.626.2429/fax: 603.641.5336 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:29 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] laid off Hi, I have been working on my own for some 15 years, had some startups I was involved with but no regular full time job. Sometime I had plenty of work, sometimes none. I also just finished reading "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. I do know the gut wrenching feeling of having to leave a startup because of other folks wanting to move in wrong (my opinion) directions. But given 10, 15 or 20 years of "Service" what should we expect from our employer / customer? What do we owe them? Is it really a dog eat dog world and that makes everything fair? Did we get all we were owed as paychecks? What do we owe for the time of employment? Should we simply "Take" what the employer is willing to Give? I am curious as to what others think. Bob K. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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