Joey I thought it was a typo too! I don't have anything requiring 6015 but if it was 6016 which uses reference documents (section 2) this includes 6012, 6013 and 6015 anything that is not covered in 6016 we revert back to the applicable document - of course if it is listed in 6016 then 6016 would take precedence. Not sure if 6015 has the same reference paragraph. Denise Denise J Chevalier Amphenol Printed Circuits Quality Engineer Phone - 603-324-4530 Fax - 603-386-6442 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender by email and destroy all copies of the original message. EXPORT CONTROL NOTICE: This email transmission contains information controlled for export purposes under the U.S. International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) and is intended for the recipient only. No export, sale, transfer, release or other disposition of this information is permitted without prior authorization from the U.S. Government. -----Original Message----- From: IPC-600-6012 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Reed, Randy Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [IPC-600-6012] bga workmanship criteria for 6015 designs Joey, OK. I thought the 6015 was a mistype. Randy Randy Reed, CQE Reliability Lab Viasystems Group Inc. [log in to unmask] 503.992.4421-direct l 503.545.0150-cell -----Original Message----- From: IPC-600-6012 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jose A Rios Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [IPC-600-6012] bga workmanship criteria for 6015 designs randy, the 3.5.3.2 i refer to is 6015, not 6012. Joey Rios PWB & Process Quality Eng'r Endicott Interconnect Technologies 1093 Clark St. Endicott, NY 13760 Office: 607-755-5896 "Reed, Randy" <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: IPC-600-6012 <[log in to unmask]> 03/11/2011 01:19 PM Please respond to "(Combined Forum of D-33a and 7-31a Subcommittees)" <[log in to unmask]> To [log in to unmask] cc Subject Re: [IPC-600-6012] bga workmanship criteria for 6015 designs Hi Joey, For IPC-6012 - 1) 3.5.3.2 is conductor thickness and is applied global to the board surface. 2) 3.5.4.2.2 states for round surface mount pads the global statement in 3.5.3.2 does not apply to the pristine area of the pad. I view 3.5.4.2.2 as an exception to 3.5.3.2. Randy Randy Reed, CQE Reliability Lab Viasystems Group Inc. [log in to unmask] 503.992.4421-direct l 503.545.0150-cell -----Original Message----- From: IPC-600-6012 [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jose A Rios Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:41 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [IPC-600-6012] bga workmanship criteria for 6015 designs Wondering how some of you would evaluate workmanship of round surface mount lands (BGA's, non-wirebond) for designs calling out fabrication and inspection per IPC 6015 only , and the User does not know what AABUS means.... The closest thing I come to is IPC 6015 paragraph 3.5.3.2, however it's not written in a 'round' context and the boundaries of the edge vs internal area are not explicitely stated. Do I then go to 6012, 3.5.4.2.2 ??? 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