Time, money, quality. Choice is any two out of three, but not all. If you hire green bean, you have to wait until its bear fruit (training cost time and money). -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Croslin, Robert [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 09:11 AM To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [TN] Contract PCB Design Services T&C Dear Technetters, In my company's desire to save costs, the decision was made to lay off our own PCB designer and contract PCB design services to external design firms. So far, it's working, but not as well as we had hoped. The engineering staff realizes that when you dump an amazingly capable designer willing to work all-nighters and weekends without even being asked, something is lost, but Sr. Management does not. 1. I'm being asked to provide a set of standard terms and conditions for such arrangements. Do any of you who use or provide contract PCB design services have a standard agreement you use? 2. Next, if when using a contract house and you discover they're not the right ones for that particular design for some reason, and mutually choose to move it to a more specialized firm, do you simply not pay anything to the original firm, even though they did build libraries and do placement and original routing, or do you negotiate a fee for time spent to date? I contend that these are services similar to what you receive at a doctor or dentist who "practice" their arts using learned skills and that it's simply not an exact science. Am I wrong here? Bob Croslin The Nielsen Company ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------