Yes But, If you buy everything from one manufacturer and there is a problem do you really expect them to say: "Yes, It is my problems, I will fix it." ? If you think that would you like to buy a big bridge in New York City? :-) If you can get what you need at a reasonable price from a single supplier go for it. But various real world issues seldom make that possible. Bob Kondner -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:05 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: Halide / Halide-Free Not only that, but it is inevitable that manufacturer X will blame the product of manufacturer Y, should you ever run into any trouble. Brian Karen Tellefsen wrote: > Do solder manufacturers actually develop products to be used together by > matching chemistries? > > Sometimes. > > Should one attempt to utilize paste, wire, and liquid flux all from a > single supplier, or is there no value there, in that an ORH0 is an ORH0 is > an ORH0? > > The advantage using one vendors chemistries is that the vendor may have > tested the materials together and can provide compatability/reliability > data. If you use chemistries from different vendors, you'll have to do > any compatability testing yourself. > > Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing > [log in to unmask] > 908-791-3069 > > > > > "Glidden, Kevin" > <Kevin.Glidden@as > tronics.com> To > TechNet E-Mail Forum > 04/20/2010 06:56 <[log in to unmask]>, Karen Tellefsen > AM <[log in to unmask]> > cc > > Subject > RE: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: > Halide / Halide-Free > > > > > > > > > > > Karen and Guy, > > Thanks for the responses. I like the looks of the Aqualine... > > But, more questions comes to mind..... > > Do solder manufacturers actually develop products to be used together by > matching chemistries? > > Should one attempt to utilize paste, wire, and liquid flux all from a > single supplier, or is there no value there, in that an ORH0 is an ORH0 is > an ORH0? > > For example, in some wire solder data sheets you will see statements that > it uses the same flux chemistry as either a paste or a liquid flux from the > same manufacturer. But on the other hand, I have seen manufacturers state > that the compatible flux with a given paste in product X, but then the > datasheet for product X states it was developed with the same chemistry as > a completely different paste. > > Thanks, > > Kevin Glidden > Manufacturing Engineer > Astronics Luminescent Systems Inc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Tellefsen [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:59 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: Halide / Halide-Free > > Aqualine 6000 is halide-free, ORH0. Must be washed, washable in hot DI > water. > > Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing > [log in to unmask] > 908-791-3069 > > > > > "Guy M. Ramsey" > <gramsey@RDCIRCUI > TS.COM> To > Sent by: TechNet [log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]> cc > > Subject > 04/19/2010 02:42 Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: > PM Halide / Halide-Free > > > Please respond to > TechNet E-Mail > Forum > <[log in to unmask]> > ; Please respond > to > "Guy M. Ramsey" > <gramsey@RDCIRCUI > TS.COM> > > > > > > > Amtech makes a wire core solder with Halide free watersoluble flux. You > should > clean it but it cleans fairly easily. If you are looking to change your > cleaning > process, I recommend you look at it. 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