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Dean Stadem Consulting Engineer Analog Technologies Corp./Lumagine, Inc. 11441 Rupp Drive Burnsville, MN 55431 (952)894-9228 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christopher Young Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:12 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] email off Could someone tell me how to switch off thses emails I've tried following instructions but just gets bounced back... -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of SolderMask Sent: 18 March 2010 23:02 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota Hello Bob, If the list is not too long I would like to see this picture. Regards, Frank Kurisu SolderMask, Inc. 17905 Metzler Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92647 714 842-1987 - Office 714 847-0244 - FAX 714 454-0539 - Mobile e-mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota Hi Bob, You're probably getting flooded with requests, but I would like them as well. Thanks a bunch! Steve Gregory -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 5:43 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota Yes, it's a whitewash job, IMHO. I invited Dr Gilbert to our weekly tin whiskers telecon last week. He was very humble and forthcoming on what he knew and what he did not know. He shared pictures of the APP (accelerator pedal module) which has SMT resistors and caps and a small SOIC package that converts two redundant Hall sensors that the magnets attached to the pedals move by. That results in a 1-4Vdc signal. Tin plated connector soldered to the board. Plenty of locations for whisker shorts to do what Toyota's so-called expert said "can't possibly happen". If you would like to see the pictures and his technical report I'd be happy to share them with you. Bob Landman H&L Instruments, LLC Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Has anyone else reviewed the Toyota slideshow and related PR on the > Dr. Gilbert debunking? > > http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/document/Exponent_ProfGilbert_8Mar10. pdf > > As part of their "defense" they have totally laid-out the fault tree > and required sequencing. > Assuming that it is an under-hood box, with a little material and > process information (like finish, solder, laminate, compliant pin?) it > appears to me to likely be a quick FA. > The fact that there is complete silence about any (IMO obvious) FA > hypothesis is very intriguing. > > Although I have no specific information!, I think it highly unlikely > that Toyota doesn't know the root (electronic) cause for at least some > of them. > If Michael Pecht or one of my competitors has their hands on a faulty > unit the public should know the answer soon enough. If not, it > probably means tort beat quality one more time (aren't they supposed > to work in consort!?) > > I think it will be very interesting to see how the legislators and > regulators handle such a situation. > > Chris > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or > [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To > unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt > or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask] > : SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask] > : SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at > [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 > ----------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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