Werner, it seems to me as writing the word 'black pad' has the same effect as enema, i.e. an outburst from the rearmost postings /Inge -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier Sent: fredag 23 oktober 2009 03:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] ENIG Issue Inge, I sure am glad to are not going for the opposite-MORE ENEMA. Werner -----Original Message----- From: Inge <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 3:40 pm Subject: Re: [TN] ENIG Issue WENIG ENIGMA, so als zu sagen. /Inge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE)" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [TN] ENIG Issue I wouldn't buy a pig in a poke, but I would take ENEPIG in a flash. Dewey -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob METCALF Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] ENIG Issue Why not use Nickel Palladium Gold? It has all the performance attributes of ENIG without the chance of Nickel corrosion. It is essentially black pad proof as you are putting electroless Palladium on the Nickel surface, not immersion Gold. The immersion gold does not corrode the Palladium like it does Nickel. This is truly a universal finish, without the corrosion issues. Regards, Bob Metcalf Atotech Western Regional Manager Cell 714-334-7667 E-Mail [log in to unmask] This e-mail and any attachments hereto are business documents of Atotech USA Inc. and may contain CONFIDENTIAL OR PROPRIETARY BUSINESS INFORMATION. Unauthorized disclosure and/or use of information contained in this email is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, use, disseminate or copy this message or any other files transmitted with it. Dwight Mattix <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> 10/21/2009 09:41 AM Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to Dwight Mattix <[log in to unmask]> To [log in to unmask] cc Subject Re: [TN] ENIG Issue At 05:02 AM 10/21/2009, Wenger, George M. wrote: >Rex, > > > >Thank you for being honest. If you follow TN faithfully you can >read between the lines that there have been many who have wished >ENIG would disappear off the face of the earth. There have also >some who still think ENIG is a good surface finish primarily because >it has worked for them and they have not experienced an ENIG problem (yet). There's a 3rd group: Those that think ENIG is like a representative democracy. It's absolutely the worst thing we've ever used -- except for everything else we've tried. 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