Actually sometimes it's not as civilized in Sweden either. A company close to where I live tried to persuade "good" people to quit (because they cost more money than the not so experienced ones) but did not succeed. Then on a big meeting the management presented a new organization, where the "good" people were not listed. After explaining the new organization they finished with "And for you who is not listed on the chart we think you can make a better work in some other company than our." Or the Foreign Minister of Sweden who put one of his employees in a small room with just a table and a phone (a laptop also I guess) but with no tasks at all (do I need to say the belonged to different parties?). For several months he (the Minister) turned down every application for other positions the employee sent in but finally accepted to send him as consul-general to Hongkong. The sandpit is not only for three year olds... // Fredrik -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dean Stadem Sent: den 10 juli 2009 18:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: I just joined the ranks of the unemployed... Hi, Ken That is now illegal. There are specific methods of informing survivor employees AFTER the layoff has occurred. The law is very clear on this. I once had a manager who came to work dressed in a long black gown, wearing a black hood and mask, and carrying a scythe. He would walk up behind the employee to be laid off, tap him/her on the shoulder, and crook his finger and say, "Your time is up, my friend. Gather together your personal belongings and come with me". The day after he was finished laying people off, they fired his ass and he was escorted out of the building. They ended up paying umpteen million bucks in the class-action lawsuit brought about against them for this manager's antics. R. Dean Stadem Consulting Engineer Analog Technologies Corp./Lumagine, Inc. 11441 Rupp Drive Burnsville, MN 55431 (952)894-9228 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken Bloomquist Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: I just joined the ranks of the unemployed... One of the worst layoff's I ever went through, even though I didn't get laid off, was a big one where HR would get on the PA every half hour or so and read off a list of the next terminations. This went on all day, very nerve wracking and a VERY long day! 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