Sometimes what the patent office approves makes them a sitting duck.......... John Burke (408) 515 4992 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] WAX A standing joke? Inge ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Burke" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [TN] WAX > Interesting......... they got a patent on insulating solid core conductor > wire????????? Someone should go patent the butt to make sure they never > sit > down again at the patents office. > > John Burke > (408) 515 4992 > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:56 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] WAX > > Inge, > Nope I haven't. But, Joyce, who is at ECTC right now, may be able to > shed some light on this from her time at Microbonds, where their main > patent deals with putting a coating on gold bond wires that allows them > to touch without shorting out. > > On a shiny surface like that you MIGHT be able to determine > presence/absence by FTIR, but maybe not because of the thin nature of > the film. Certainly we have not been able to confirm the presence of > material in water spots on gold surfaces. > > Two techniques that come to mine to try and Auger and/or XPS, but I am > not even a novice in either technique. Both are very expensive. > Regards, > Bev > RIM > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:34 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] WAX > > Hi all and even Bev, > > Assume that you polish a metal, in my case five 9s Ag. Polishes have at > least two purposes. Grind the metal to get a certain level of brightness > (we > polish to Ra 30 nanometers). And leave a thin coating that protects the > metal. Now, in our case, what is left is so thin, that you can't observe > the > 'coating'. Presumably because it's an organic compound of some sort, > and > also because it's transparent for our eye's wavelength. Now comes the > question: has anyone out there ever investigated such a 'wax' and > determined the thickness, and if so, what kind of equipment was used? > That's why I more or less directed the q to Bev... > > Inge > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 > To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text > in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet > To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) > To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest > Search the archives of previous posts at: > http://listserv.ipc.org/archives > Please visit IPC web site > http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional > information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 > ext.2815 > ----------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential > information, privileged material (including material protected by the > solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public > information. 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