Hi, Volume defined by dollars, number of PCBs produced, or the number of jobs run? At AAPCB we are small, less than 1/10 of $250M but we receive, setup and run over 10 jobs a day at times. (That is 10 different customers each with a different PCB with different parts.) But we are designed from the bottom up for protos and small runs. Anything else is low margin. Your categories sound incredibly high to me. 2006 Consumer electronics was about $130B. Estimate that assembly represents 5% of this or about $6B dollars. My guess it is well spread out, at only 1000 assembly locations the average is only $6M per year. I would expect most large plants to be under 100M. Also, see below, you might ask who much they make. Now remember Flextronics is the biggest and they do a lot more than just assembly boards. Bob Kondner FLEXTRONICS INTERNATIONAL LTD. CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS Three-Month Periods Ended Nine-Month Periods Ended December 31, December 31, 2008 2007 2008 2007 (In thousands, except per share amounts) (Unaudited) Net sales $ 8,153,289 $ 9,068,658 $ 25,366,051 $ 19,782,783 Cost of sales 7,855,950 8,538,958 24,168,167 18,648,730 Restructuring charges - 211,780 26,317 221,533 Gross profit 297,339 317,920 1,171,567 912,520 Selling, general and administrative expenses 275,922 261,586 783,235 560,725 Intangible amortization 32,613 21,058 108,176 51,444 Goodwill impairment charge 5,949,977 - 5,949,977 - Restructuring charges - 34,052 2,898 34,973 Other charges (income), net (2,627) 61,078 9,310 61,078 Interest and other expense, net 53,641 36,921 141,254 59,349 Income (loss) before income taxes (6,012,187) (96,775) (5,823,283) 144,951 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Croslin, Robert Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Contract Manufacturer Levels Dear 'Netters, What would be appropriate annual business volumes to define Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 contract manufacturers. I'm being asked by our new management team and want to be reasonably accurate. I've always used up to $250M as 3, up to $1B as 2, and above $1B as 1, but can't remember where I got those numbers. Thanks in advance, Bob Croslin The Nielsen Company --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------