Some companies are indeed rationalising their product ranges to concentrate on core products/follow 80/20 rules and so on according to their business models. For sure MIL spec and other legacy fluxes will be on the 'wrong' side of such cuts. Other companies use different models and supply products on a to-order basis for as long as there is a need. There are a couple of cautions: - When such products leave mainstream lines there is likely to be a commensurate cost increase. - Users should also keep in mind that some products are so old that ingredients may (soon) be no longer available due to similar obsolescence at supplier's suppliers or current H&S or environmental constraints. The best advice for anyone using these products is to be prepared and actively qualify alternate supplies BEFORE your purchasing office finds products have been withdrawn. Regards Mike Fenner Indium Corporation T: + 44 1908 580 400 M: + 44 7810 526 317 F: + 44 1908 580 411 E: [log in to unmask] W: www.indium.com Pb-free: www.Pb-Free.com -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] ROL1 RUMOR I heard from both our Kester and Alpha reps that there was a consensus to drop RMA flux materials due to the fact that so few companies use this formulation anymore. The ROL0 and ROL1 fluxes are more difficult to clean, solvents are required and are expensive, water soluble fluxes are much easier to completely remove, and at the same time all of the commercial side of the industry has typically gone to no-clean flux formulations. So some of the solder paste, flux, and wire vendors are taking a long hard look at continuing to make these products to a dwindling customer base. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lee Whiteman Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:31 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] ROL1 RUMOR Heard a rumor from one of my colleagues that ROL1 solder flux would no longer be manufactured. I find this extremely hard to believe. Has anyone heard this rumor? Just curious. Thanks. 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