IPC sells some photo CD ROM albums, there are 10 in total if you call IPC or search the web site you will find them. They were produced to help people make up training presentations etc. One is specific to PCBs defects, others cover BGA, SMT, LGA/QFNs, Conventional joints etc. They are also available in US from Automated Learning, Electronics ca and SMTA. Bob Willis 2 Fourth Ave, Chelmsford, Essex, CM1 4HA England Tel: (44) 1245 351502 Fax: (44) 1245 496123 Mobile: 07860 775858 www.ASKbobwillis.com New Bob Willis "Printed Board Inspection & Quality Control Workshop" 24th March www.ASKbobwillis.com/faworkshops.pdf "Troubleshooting Your Assembly Yields Workshop" 25th March www.ASKbobwillis.com/faworkshops.pdf Book Bob's "Step by Step Failure Analysis Workshop" 22nd April www.ASKbobwillis.com/faworkshops.pdf -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simonik, Dave R. (David) Sent: 11 September 2008 18:24 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Need Photos Hi Alan; The following was copied from our on line defect book. DELAMINATION 330 000 Delamination charged to Oxide When a core, panel, or circuit blisters or separates in the middle of the thickness then it is called 330 DELAMINATION. It may show as small, isolated opaque spots but it usually shows as large blister-like areas either close to the surface or deep within the laminate. Usually a noticeable bubble or mound is found over the point of delamination. This differs from Measling in that measling has lots of small spots concentrated in specific areas without any noticeable mounding. In addition, when a Rigid-Flex product does not have the proper amount of adhesion in the area of the flex cores, then it is also called DELAMINATION. This can occur due to insufficient cure of the resin, incorrect press lamination parameters, or contamination on or between cores, prepreg or foil. This could occur on cores, panels or circuits as well as double sided panels. MEASLING When a core, panel or circuit exhibits a whitish, opaque appearance that follows the glass weave pattern then it is 334 MEASLING. This is actually a microscopic separation of the resin from the glass bundles that make up the glass fabric in the laminate. This may be confused with Resin Starvation but it differs in the fact that it is found in isolated spots rather than wider areas. If both defects are present then it should be called out as Resin Starvation. Measling differs from Delamination in that there is NO mounding or blistering over these areas. This could occur on cores, panels or circuits. Dave Simonik Process Technician Sanmina SCI Corp. Owego NY PCB Division -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alan Davison Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Need Photos I am looking for some good photos of delaminated and measled boards. If you have any or know where to find some it would help me to put out a growing fire with one of our customers. Thanks Alan Davison Cascade Controls NW [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> 503.252.3116 16039 NE Cameron Blvd. Portland. OR 97230 CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail message and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. 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