I once tasked a junior process engineer of mine to confirm the status of this compound in all product supplied to us...I think he was a cut and paste sort of fellow and dutifully sent inquiries to various vendors...some of the follow-up phone calls were entertaining... -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gervascio, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list? Newsflash! An internet search shows the insidious nature of dihyrogen monoxide! Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide! The Invisible Killer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- The coalition to ban dihydromonoxide warns about this ubiquitous chemical. Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death. Dihydrogen monoxide: is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. contributes to the "greenhouse effect." may cause severe burns. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes. has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients. Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions! Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California. Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used: as an industrial solvent and coolant. in nuclear power plants. in the production of styrofoam. as a fire retardant. in many forms of cruel animal research. in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical. as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products. Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer! The Horror Must Be Stopped! The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use. It's Not Too Late! Act NOW to prevent further contamination. Find out more about this dangerous chemical. What you don't know can hurt you and others throughout the world. Send email to [log in to unmask], or a SASE to: Coalition to Ban DHMO 211 Pearl St. Santa Cruz CA, 95060 Tom Gervascio Principal Process Engineer Sypris Electronics Desk/VoiceMail 813-972-6763 Beeper 813-887-0098 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list? Hello, Tim Yes, indeed, copper is a dangerous substance, especially beryllium copper, and it should not be ingested or smoked. I am sure the EU weenies are well-meaning, probably having inhaled some through a copper pipe in their earlier days of experimenting with alternative lifestyles and they know how harmful it can be. I am sure they simply don't want anyone else to experience the brain-rotting that they inadvertently experienced. But copper is not nearly so dangerous as Dihydrogen Monoxide, which is one of the best cleaning solvents known, especially when heated. I hope the EU weenies and the self-appointed California environmental experts never find out about Dihydrogen Monoxide; if they took a look at the MSDS I think they would choke when they see how much of this dangerous cleaning solvent is present in their bodies. It has been known to kill in both its liquid and solid forms. People die from it every day. I was just reading that at least 25,000 people were killed either directly by it or as an indirect result of coming into contact with it just in the last couple of weeks. Yet, as dangerous as it is, it is a chemical we cannot do without in the electronics industry. I am almost afraid to post this, as I am sure it will quickly be added to the list of banned chemicals in the upcoming REACH legislation. Just last night on TV I saw several big tough guys fall down on top of a sheet of hardened Dihydrogen Monoxide. There were several injuries reported. It is definitely not something to fool around with, and should be controlled so idiots don't kill themselves due to overexposure, or hurt someone by playfully throwing it at friends while it is in its plastic range between liquidus and solidus. -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of TIMOTHY MCGRADY Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:23 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [LF] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list? I have been in conferences where speakers recommended that copper metal be banned from use in products. When I asked one California environmentalist how he determined copper was hazardous, he said he read an MSDS. It is true that an MSDS for copper metal will state that copper is hazardous. For example: WARNING! HARMFUL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. AFFECTS THE LIVER AND KIDNEYS. CHRONIC EXPOSURE MAY CAUSE TISSUE DAMAGE. SAF-T-DATA(tm) Ratings (Provided here for your convenience) Health Rating: 3 - Severe (Life) Flammability Rating: 1 - Slight Reactivity Rating: 2 - Moderate Contact Rating: 1 - Slight Lab Protective Equip: GOGGLES & SHIELD; LAB COAT & APRON; VENT HOOD; PROPER GLOVES Storage Color Code: Green (General Storage) But the key here is to look at the qualification of the hazard: "Harmful if swallowed or inhaled". That means only if swallowed or inhaled. But the Precautionary Principle allows the EU to ignore such trivial facts. In the US, all electronics manufacturers will now probably have to label their products as follows: "Contains copper metal. Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Do not swallow or inhale this product." But that will not be enough for the environmentalists - they will want to ban copper, just so no one could possibly inhale or swallow it. No more lead, PVC or copper pipes. What are we going to use for plumbing? -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [LF] Will copper be on the next EU banned material list? Some fresh news from the EU Commission below There is no argument that "uncontrolled recycling" can be hazardous just as drunk driving can be hazardous. And how can one be against the protection of children. The key is education and education is thus vital. The parents are working to feed their families. With the knowledge of the potential for harm them might cause by poor work habits, they will make as many of the right decisions as they are capable of. What is a bit alarming is that the author(s?) following sentence: "Of these metals, high levels of lead and copper were the greatest cause for concern" then going on to talk about lead issues leaving apparent guilt by association for copper. The there are a number of other troubling aspects to the article such as the use if "could be" rather than something more definite and the citing sweeping transdermal metal toxicity which is the first time I have seen that in print. The item might well have been sub-titled: "Be afraid... be very afraid" targeted not only at the recycler but also at the electronics manufacturer. And so it goes... Joe Uncontrolled electronic waste recycling threat to children's health Source: _European Commission, Environment DG_ (http://www.environmental-expert.com/STSE_resultEach.aspx?cid=8819&idpro duct type=1&idmainpage=0&level=0) Published May 5, 2008 Current EU policy on Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE) highlights the need for greater recycling of electrical and electronic equipment to limit the total quantity of waste going to landfill. However, research carried out in China suggests that if recycling is not carried out safely then there is a significant risk to human health and the environment. The researchers from Hong Kong studied Guiyu, a village in southeast China which has a significant electronic circuit board recycling industry. Villagers melt solder from the circuit boards and sort electrical components, which they sell to electrical appliance factories. Circuit boards contain many toxic metals. The researchers tested dust from the recycling workshops, and also from the nearby road, food market and schoolyard. They found high levels of dangerous heavy metals which would have an impact on the health of the recycling workers and would pose a high risk to children. The researchers tested for the metals cadmium, cobalt, chromium, copper, nickel, lead and zinc. These metals can cause both acute and long-term toxicity. Of these metals, high levels of lead and copper were the greatest cause for concern. High lead levels are associated with lower IQ in children. Other research has shown that both workers and children in Guiyu have a high incidence of bone disease, as well as digestive, neurological and respiratory problems, which may be linked to metal toxicity. A risk assessment indicated that recycling workers could be exposed to 50 times the safe oral lead dose. Workers transport the metals into their homes from the workshop as dust, transferring the dust to their children. In a separate study, children of circuit board workers were found to have higher levels of lead in their blood than those whose parents recycled plastics. The metals get into the body through the skin or when dust is inadvertently eaten or breathed in. The health risk to children at all locations around the village was around eight times greater than that to adults. Few studies to date have determined the extent of the problems caused by uncontrolled electronic waste recycling. Similar waste is commonly recycled in African countries as well as India and Vietnam. Awareness of the consequences of uncontrolled recycling could prevent some of the same mistakes being repeated in these countries. The amount of WEEE generated in the European Community is growing rapidly and Policy makers would like to see more WEEE recycling. The EU WEEE directive seeks to encourage safe recycling, addressing issues such as managing the risks of handling hazardous components, which as this case study shows, can cause concerns if recycling is not carried out safely. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. 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