Well, as a biologist by training, I noticed that many of Greenpeace efforts were ecologically myopic. I could rarely support their "in your face" actions and found many causes frivolous. Some of their causes have a high "feel good" factor but tend to be low on critical thinking. At the same time that does not mean I support wholesale whale hunting. I have to be careful about throwing stones at Greenpeace as I could be described as an international butterfly activist. I have been known to exercise civil disobedience and even raise a Monarch Butterfly in Ontario on occasion. Some the criticisms I level at Greenpeace could be leveled at me by those with a different point of view. But that is a story to be told over a beer, after an IPC meeting some time. Paul Reid -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Environmentally friendly electronics training course I, too, was surprised by Greenpeace. You do realise that this organisation was one of the movers and shakers for lead-free, do you? I have never supported any ecopolitical movement or lobbyist, but that may be because I'm an environmentalist and I try to think things through rather than condemn something because it has a dirty word associated with it. I would say that charity begins at home: put it in a savings account for an environmentally-friendly vehicle. THAT would do more good than Greenpeace. Brian John Burke wrote: > The nice folks down at University of Santa Cruz finally persuaded me > to run a one day workshop on environmentally friendly electronics; how > to build it, and the legislation surrounding it. > > > > The course is called "Designing and Building Environmentally Sound > Electronics". > > > > They are paying me for running it - I am donating these dollars to > Greenpeace. > > > > If you or any colleagues would be interested in taking a look here is > the > link: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/347t4g > > > > > > > > John Burke > > > > (408) 515 4992 > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To > unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt > or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET > Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the > posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the > archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please > visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at > [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 > ----------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------