I don't believe there is a standard defining the flash gold process (am I wrong)? We have standards for the other finishes. If the flash gold is as wonderful as Lee is stating, then it should be further evaluated and qualified and a standard written for it so it has a definition. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hfjord Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:15 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] SV: [TN] Gold Flash vs. ENIG Solder finish Agree, Last year, we had an incident with 'helicopter' RF components. They literally jumped off the boards during tempcycling. The 'flash' gold was, believe it or not, it was up to 10 microns thick!! And next batch we got had a flash so thin and porous, that you could as well skip the flash. I'm always suspicious of flash gold. Inge -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Lee parker Skickat: den 29 mars 2008 13:09 Till: [log in to unmask] Ämne: Re: [TN] Gold Flash vs. ENIG Solder finish Joyce I believe what is going on is that some unscrupulous suppliers are using their deep gold plating process to provide "flash gold" this will often result in a thick gold coating. Once again the OEM needs perform a due diligence inspection of the supplier and this should be followed by periodic visits. This is expensive, but so defective circuits. Best regards Lee J. Lee Parker, Ph.D. JLP Consultants LLC 804 779 3389 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Koo" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [TN] Gold Flash vs. ENIG Solder finish Flash is not "flash"? jk -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier /* Sent: March 28, 2008 7:21 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Gold Flash vs. ENIG Solder finish Hi Lee, However, I have been involved in issues of Au-embrittlement as a consequence of the electrolytic flash gold being plated too thick. Werner ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. 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