Hi Blair! When it comes to SMT equipment I agree with Richard, go to the manufacturer, unless you have someone you can really trust. I've bought used equipment before and have been lucky. The machines that I have bought used on the open market were auto-insertion machines, wave solder machines, and I have bought SMT printers. Fortunately, I had pretty good luck with everything. I've never bought any used pick and place machines. One thing that you need to think about, and plan for if you do find a decent machine on the open market is support. Over the recent years if you want to get any support from the OEM, don't be surprised if they ask you for a "registration fee" before they will give any support at all. I had to pay fees to both the printer OEM and wave solder OEM before I could get any support at all from them. One was a one-time fee of $5000 per machine, the other was a $4500 per year fee. Steve Gregory -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:40 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Used Equipment Sales First to the vendor. They often receive new units that were used temporarily by the customer until a preferred model was available, or were needed to demo the product at a trade show, or whatever. They typically provide a new warranty and much better pricing, just because it is a demo. Also, they know you are going to buy one if you ask. They will quite often drop the price considerably in order to sell you a machine on their books. Use it as leverage. Next, look at www.Equipmatching.com, as that is simply a central point for all of the used machine suppliers, private owners who want to sell, etc. Even the vendors sell their equipment there. Then look at http://www.easiky.com/. Then look at all of the rest. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Blair Hogg Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:01 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Used Equipment Sales I've got a pretty general question for Technetters out there - where would you go if you were looking to buy used SMT equipment? Thanks, Blair --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------