Graham, My neighbor next door won the world championship in bow game some years ago. I have the bowers just outside my door, see them every day training with their extreme bows. These toys look more like something from Star War, lots of adjustment screws, counterweights and..I've no idea what it's all. Cost a fortune. I'll joint to the club one day when I have enough free time. I'm imposed by the force with which the arrows hit the target. If you are in the way, the arrow will just pass through your entire body! My brother-in-law is a hunter, have such bows. I tried one, could hardly pull the string, used all my force. Twanggg! Inge A friend's father in law hunted (successfully) a bear with a bow/arrow a few years back - makes it a much more interesting proposition! And keeps my friend in line, having a father in law like that... >>> Hfjord 09/12/07 05:51PM >>> Ask your nearest cheyenne, sioux, dakota, or apache friends how to hunt without bullets. Cheap, silent, environment friendly and much more demanding. A modern compound bow can probably fix most except for bisons and grizzly bears. I believe bow hunting is allowed in many countries. But I don't know how many use it. What do we call it...back to basics. /Inge --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------