Hi Paymon Yes that is indeed the spec I refer to. The timeframe for 004 revision I would expect around 2009 publication. Meantime, 2.6.3.7 is already available as is IEC 61189-5 5E01 Kindest regards, Graham [log in to unmask] On 27 Sep 2007, at 22:27, Paymon Sani wrote: > Hello Graham, > > Are you referring to the HP's electrochemical migration, EL-EN861-00 > test method? Do you know the time line for the overhaul? > > Thank you, > Paymon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Naisbitt > Sent: September 27, 2007 3:46 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test > Methods > > Paymon and Bev et al > > We are in the process of an overhaul of SIR in J-STD004 since the > introduction of 2.6.3.7 in March 07. > > Also be aware that HP have instigated their own SIR tests we are all > trying to take on board. > > Whatever tests you are being asked to perform, be very careful with > the data retrieved. > > Kindest regards, > > Graham Naisbitt > Co-Chair IPC SIR TG > > [log in to unmask] > > > > On 27 Sep 2007, at 16:10, Paymon Sani wrote: > >> Bev, this was expected since you are now a grandfather. Time is >> taking >> its normal course :) >> >> My wife and I had our first born 2 weeks ago but I am feeling sharper >> than before!!! >> >> Regards, >> Paymon >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian >> Sent: September 27, 2007 10:40 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test >> Methods >> >> Paymon, >> Paymon, >> I must not have taken my happy pill this AM. In Jack's absence, Tom >> Newton has pointed out to me that I must not be awake this morning. >> (He >> was more diplomatic than that.) The version of 2.6.3.3 on the >> webpage >> (June 2004) is of course NEWER than the version in the old 818 doc >> (Jan >> 1995). I do not know what I was thinking. >> Bev >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paymon Sani >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:41 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test >> Methods >> >> Hello Bev, >> >> Thank you for the speedy response, I verified it with our supplier >> too. >> >> >> Regards, >> Paymon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian >> Sent: September 27, 2007 8:38 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test >> Methods >> >> Paymon, >> IPC-SF-818 is OLD! I had to go looking to find my dusty copy of it. >> This is a dead document. In it at the back it has the IPC-TM-650 >> Test >> Method 2.6.3.3 of March 1988. The NEW version, 2.6.3.3, rev B, which >> you can download for free from the IPC webpage, is from, I presume, >> June >> 2004, since it says 06/04. I checked other test methods and they >> show >> the year as the second number. >> >> Interesting! If I go and look at my hard copy of ANSI/J-STD-004 >> (January 1995), at the back of it the copy of 2.6.3.3 is labelled as >> Revision A, yet it has a date of January 1995, which is a newer date >> than the Revision B on the IPC webpage. >> >> Jack!!!!!!!!!!!? >> (Jack is at the IPC meetings this week. We will probably not hear >> from >> him until Monday. >> Bev >> RIM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paymon Sani >> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:29 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [TN] IPC-SF-818, Class III and IPC-TM-650 2.6.3.3 Test >> Methods >> >> Does anyone know the difference between these 2 tests? Our flux >> datasheet refers to the IPC-SF-818, Class III test method for the SIR >> test result but it does not provide the resistance value! 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