It isn't so much of a worry about the animals that get killed by the bullets. There is x-ray evidence that the lead is consumed by scavengers when the wounded animals die later, of particular interest is the California Condor. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Burke Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free? I believe it should be illegal to bomb the World with poorly thought out lead free legislation........................8-) By the way California passed a law this week to ban lead in bullets for hunting ............. John Burke (408) 515 4992 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Hanna Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:36 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free? Wouldn't it though be illegal to bomb a country with lead-free legislation in place unless the weapons systems were compliant? -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Genny Gibbard Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free? Military is not EXEMPT, it is OUT OF SCOPE. The directive does not apply at all to military (other than the indirect massive impact the directive has had). The directive has no legislative control over military electronics. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. Sent: September 12, 2007 8:10 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free? No specific alloy is "forbidden" in military electronics. In general, solders and fluxes are categorized per and must comply with J-STD-004, J-STD-005, and J-STD-006. Specific solder alloy types are called out on assembly prints and BOMs per MIL-STDs and Weapon Specs. Military, traffic control, industrial safety, some medical, and many other products are exempt per RoHS and IEEE exemptions. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Dixon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Military Exemption from Lead-Free? Check out Air Force's Airworthiness Advisory AA-05-01 It isn't very forceful in the wording, but is the closest thing I could find so far to support my cause. If anyone knows of any documentation forbidding lead free in military products, I would sure appreciate a heads-up. Thanks, Dave -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of ekalgren Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Military Exemption from Lead-Free? I believe that I remember someone mentioning a military end-use exemption from lead free requirements. Am I remembering correctly or is this just wishful thinking? If it is true, can anyone point me in the direction to get it in writing? Thanks! 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