I should add one last thing. I also agree with Wayne that press fit connectors are not intended to be reused. This application was for proto type assemblies. There were no failures noted, when the connectors were reused. Regards, Rey sosa -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rey Sosa Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:15 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Press Fit Connector rework Wayne, you are correct in how a press fit connector typically is removed, however, this particular customer could not destroy the connectors due to cost and lead time. Just to add a little more insight to the tool Randy was talking about, the reason this tool was successful in removing the connectors was because the leads did not protrude past the pcb. Each spring loaded pin aligned into the barrel of each pin location and with the force being evenly distributed across the connector was easily able to remove the connector. If the pins protrude past the pcb, this application will not work. The other advantage we had was that each connector had mounting holes. This allowed us to pin the extraction tool to each location and insure it was aligned properly. Please let me know if there are any further questions. We actually performed the rework operation at our facility. Regards, Rey Sosa -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wayne Thayer Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Press Fit Connector rework Press fit connectors are not designed for re-use!! Randy's link seems to indicate they can, but I have yet to see one. Yes, you can get them out. There are a number of techniques for doing that with pins or grippers. Randy's solution apparently used spring loaded pins. If you can't easily design a way to reduce the extraction stress on the board, you can even cut the things off with a saw and then pull the pins out one by one. Very messy. If the via metal is completely destroyed, then you will have to do some kind of qualification process to make sure the board is reliable at all. Assuming you decide to go ahead despite torn up metal (I would assume for a lab prototype or some such), then your best bet would be to see if you can find a connector with the pins split on the opposite axis so the swaged contacts hit a different area on your damaged vias. I use press fit a lot and rework them frequently. When properly designed, they can be extracted and a new one can be pushed into the board. I'd be nervous on doing more than one replacement cycle though, because of the heavy stress on the via sidewalls, despite the extra thick plating. Wayne Thayer -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Randy Morrison Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Press Fit Connector rework Amol, First of all, I want to preface this by saying that I am aware that this is not a forum for brand or product advertisement, and I am not trying to do that, and I apologize in advance if this is construed as such because that is not the intent. I do realize however that this can be quite a problem and I felt that it would be a disservice to you and the forum if I did not mention a possible solution. Please view this link and feel free to contact me offline if this solution is of interest to you. http://www.pentagon-ems.com/spotlight/archives/050806/spotlight_050806.h tml I hope you find a solution that works for you. Good luck, Randy Morrison Marketing Manager Pentagon EMS http://www.pentagon-ems.com/bio/randy.html [log in to unmask] Tel: 503-924-2747 Ext. 222 Fax: 503-924-2744 -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kane, Amol (349) Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:46 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Press Fit Connector rework Dear Technetters, Is anybody aware of ways to remove press fit connectors once they are inserted in the PTHs??. We have a situation where the connector is removing plating from the PTHs as well as removing the annular ring on the outside of the holes. The surface finish is ENIG. So far the investigation has revealed that the hole size and the pin size is within tolerance. While we are determining the root cause, we also need to see if there is a way to rework these boards. I have some pictures which I can post if anyone wants to take a look. 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