Within IPC-TM-650 is a test method for measuring tensile strain on electronic components undergoing thermal cycling. I do not know which TM it is. I also know that Werner Englemaier did a lot of work and published papers on this subject and can provide good information. Are you out there, Werner? -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:23 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Urgent! Hi Al! Sorry about my remark earlier. I kept seeing a blank email and thought it was some sort of spam... I don't have the article you were looking for, but I did find this: http://www.hobbsengr.com/papers/clech_SRS_Model_smi96.pdf SOLDER RELIABILITY SOLUTIONS: A PC-BASED DESIGN-FOR-RELIABILITY TOOL by Jean-Paul Clech It has a section that validated the model with 20, 28, and 68 I/O LCCC's undergoing accelerated thermal cycling. Maybe there's something in that paper that can help you out. Steve Gregory -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of al shirazi Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:37 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Urgent! Hello , Does any one have this article so I can have a copy please? I need to have it urgent. Thanks, Al Hall, P. M., "Strain measurements during thermal chamber cycling on leadless ceramic chip carriers soldered to printed boards", Proceedings, 34th Electronic Components Conference, New Orleans, LA, May 14-16, 1984, pp. 107-116. --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------