I looks like a nice flux formula but, Brian is correct. If you get water soluble flux mixed in with a benign flux that is incompatible with your cleaning process you are at risk. It doesn't look like a closed loop DI washer will remove the stuff. A mixture of aggressive OA flux and the NC264 could become a problem. There is nothing wrong will adding NC after wash. But, adding NC before wash might cause problems. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roberts, Jon Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:08 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] No Clean flux residue after water wash Comment, we use have several assemblies (CCAs) that stranded jumper wires (usually 26 AWG) are used on so water soluble fluxes (QA) can not be used during any of our processes. We due use the AIM NC 264, Jon -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:43 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] No Clean flux residue after water wash I don't know how many times it has been said here that a so-called "no-clean" flux is formulated primarily so that the residues are as benign as possible WITHOUT any cleaning process. If you choose to clean them, the residues may be much less benign. Fluxes that are designed to be cleaned are formulated to ensure the cleaning process is as easy as possible. I do not advise mixing types on any one assembly because you are negating that advantages of both. The easiest way round your problem is to use a water-soluble flux for wave soldering (and reduce your retouch rate at the same time!) Brian Tom P. Hummel wrote: > Fellow TechNetters, > > > > We are experiencing a white residue on the solder side of some boards > after going through our wash system. We are wave soldering the boards > on a SeHo wave solder machine using Aim NC-264-5 no clean flux. The > boards have some additional components installed by hand using water > soluble flux/solder. The boards are then run through our Aqueous > Technologies SMT series board washer. When they complete the drying > cycle, there is a white residue on the solder side of the boards that is > very difficult to remove. Has anyone else seen this residue from > washing a board after using no clean flux? Does anyone have any > recommendations to help eliminate the residue? > > > > > > Thomas P. 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