Joe, We all know what opinions are like, and everybody's got one. So here's mine: If your customer did not explicitly state somewhere that no additional markings are allowed, maybe somewhere buried in T's&C's or in a referenced specification on their drawing, they don't have a right to ask for free replacements. However, the question you need to ask yourself is how important is this customer to your business? Are you willing to let them go elsewhere for the boards? You probably have an ethical, legal and moral right to ask them to change their spec and place a new order. You will need to be prepared in the event that they don't order from your company, and for the possibility that they have a legal team hanging around drinking coffee and eating donuts waiting for something to do, and can make your life miserable. So there you have it- my opinion, take it for what its worth, and have a happy Friday. Blair Hogg GAI-Tronics Corp. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Hughes Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:37 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Vendor Markings I'm interested in opinions regarding Vendor Markings. If a fabrication drawing is silent regarding vendor markings, is it acceptable to apply the fabricators UL logo? We have a customer that is angry we applied our logo. However, we feel we need to apply our logo for our own traceability and ability to do failure analysis should the boards ever be in question. We have had several occasions where our customers return boards we didn't build. It obviously is easy when we can show them the logo is not ours, but it gets difficult when there are no logos on the board. They'd like us to rebuild 5 lots of boards due to not asking them if it was acceptable to apply our vendor id. Should the fabricator be responsible for requesting approval for vendor markings on every job, or should the board buyer be responsible for stating no vendor markings allowed? Your input is appreciated. --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------