Doesn't Sony make the Playstations? We've got two in our house that have been working since the day they came home. Only problem is that scratched disks cause the kids don't put them back in the cases when they are done with them. Not that I'm a Sony fan...., but someone else makes the X-box. I bought a 3 letter DVD/VCR combo player, it died within a year. Looking for a digi-camcorder, won't buy that brand... Blair -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D. Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure My comments on this: We purchased an X-box 360 for my son last Christmas. That is 5 months ago. The first one did not work out of the box. The second one worked great for two weeks. Then the disk drive died. The third replacement worked until yesterday, then the disk drive died. My son reported to me that six other kids in his class have X-box 360s, and every one of them failed and had to be returned at some point. I do not know if the X-box is RoHS-compliant, or if they were soldered with Pb-free solder. I do know their quality is, in a single word, crap. Like others, I had always expected better things from Sony. Not anymore. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Fjelstad Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure Dear Inge, Thank you for your note and thoughts. I greatly appreciate your sharing them as you are a balanced thinker whose opinions i greatly respect. (I hope I have not lost completely your confidence in my abilities to do so... ;-) My message was just a personal experience and I do not question that there are "many trees still standing in the forest". I was simply sharing an ironic event given my long standing opposition. I have owned and/or used more than a dozen laptops in the last 17 years and this is the most expensive one and the most hyped (in terms of reliability) among them. It is also first one among them to have failed without apparent cause. I cannot predict the future but I can read and interpret scientific data and indications are that we are looking at a very bumpy road ahead. I listened to a talk by Dr. Fay Hua at a recent SMTA event and it was very sobering. The failure aside, my greatest frustration remains that the RoHS products we are now being forced to buy are not as environmentally friendly as the earlier products. Moreover, if we are to recycle, (which I am in accord with) then the matter of lead in solder is moot. 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