I believe Dewey accidentally left out the word "listener" after "electronics". But let's not hash it out here where it might acidify the discussion... On Mon, 21 May 2007 07:30:13 -0700, Dwight Mattix <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >70's? Pot the electronics? > >You sure you got that part about pot right? > >At 06:44 AM 5/21/2007, Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) wrote: >>Back in the 70s, it was a highly held belief that if you pot the >>electronics, there was a great improvement in the clarity and depth of >>the music. >>Dewey >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Kirschner >>Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:02 PM >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic >> >>Heh heh... >> >>It's all to feed, and thereby make $ off, the terrible disease called >>"audiophiliosis"...some friends of mine have it...spent tens of >>thousands of >>dollars on spectacular equipment and whiz-bang cables to listen to >>cassette >>tapes of Grateful Dead concerts... >> >>;o) >> >>Mike >> >>On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:50:39 +0300, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >No, but it's great for 78s! :-) >> > >> >Brian >> > >> >John Burke wrote: >> >> Would it improve the sound on my 8 track?? >> >> >> >> John...................8-) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> John Burke >> >> >> >> (408) 515 4992 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Fowler >> >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 10:58 AM >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic >> >> >> >> They do have the amplifier built into the speakers. I saw some >>about 8 >> >> years ago, sounded nice, and were good and heavy. >> >> >> >> Then you can get into the copper crystalline signal cables, which are >> >> just as expensive as the speaker wires. >> >> >> >> It's all about the money... >> >> >> >> david >> >> >> >> Hogg, Blair K. wrote: >> >>> I wonder why someone doesn't just put the amplifier at the speaker >> >>> itself, then run line level audio through shielded cables to each >> >>> amplifier. Probably too much chance of em noise affecting the >>signal. >> >>> Could always go digital to the speaker, then turn it into audio >>signals >> >>> driving the voice coil. I think that is how it is done on some >> >>> automotive systems. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge >> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:27 PM >> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >> >>> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic >> >>> >> >>> The world is full of nonsense. A friend of mine bought water cooled >> >>> speaker cables with pure gold connectors. That cable, I assure, >>could >> >>> supply current to a whole block in Santa Domingo. Myself, have an >> >>> ordinary "room cord" like the one you use for your desk lamp, this >>one >> >>> 15 feet long wire feeds a 800 W bass speaker. The loss in the wire >>is so >> >>> low, that it's neglectable, and the distortion would noone hear when >>the >> >>> bookshelves vibrate and you feel the thunder through the chair's >>legs. I >> >>> prefer to listen to the music, not to look at the music via a >> >>> oscilloscope and a spectrum analyzer. >> >>> Inge >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Graham Collins" <[log in to unmask]> >> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> >>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:21 AM >> >>> Subject: Re: [TN] Friday TechnoTopic >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Ha! I'm guessing that wasn't a blind test. How would that short >> >>>> >> >>> piece >> >>> >> >>>> of wire impact audio performance? It's connecting a household plug >> >>>> socket, through the house wiring (of dubious quality if it's Inge's >> >>>> house...) and the power grid... and has a transformer on the other >> >>>> side, presumably. >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm guessing this is along the lines of the speaker wire a sales >>guy >> >>>> tried to sell me one time. It was 12 gage wire (overkill, but OK), >> >>>> >> >>> but >> >>> >> >>>> he was very earnest in telling me that the wire was formed such >>that >> >>>> >> >>> it >> >>> >> >>>> was optimized for electron flow in one particular direction... >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm thinking it's only applied to the AC power cord because >>anything >> >>>> more complicated would not emerge functional. Component failures >> >>>> >> >>> aside, >> >>> >> >>>> what would that do to solder joints??? >> >>>> >> >>>> regards, >> >>>> >> >>>> Graham Collins >> >>>> Process Engineer, >> >>>> L-3 Communications Electronic Systems Inc. >> >>>> Halifax >> >>>> (902) 873-2000 ext 6215 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>>> [log in to unmask] 05/17/07 10:37PM >>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>> There is a process in High End Audio which purports to enhance >> >>>> equipment performance , called CryoTreatment. >> >>>> >> >>>> In this process the audio gear is subjected to a ramp down to -281F >> >>>> >> >>> (or >> >>> >> >>>> cooler, but not below -320F), followed by a soak of 20 to 40 hours, >> >>>> followed by a specific warm-up cycle back to R/T. >> >>>> >> >>>> It is postulated that the technical explanation for the enormous >> >>>> listening benefits of the process is a re-arrangement or >>refinement >> >>>> >> >>> of >> >>> >> >>>> the crystal structure of the conductor metals. The effect is so >> >>>> >> >>> powerful >> >>> >> >>>> that objective listeners reported a significant improvement in >>audio >> >>>> quality when the AC power cord for a preamp was so treated. 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