I am working on the 820 section on PWB Structures. It will be a good document if we edit it properly, there is to much trivia in my section right now. I have a copy of the Boot Camp circa 2000. I found it the other day. I had put it on CD so I could work on note pages in the evening. A lot of it has been updated but, the Philly guys weren't very good at keeping the note pages updated. Most of the instructors treated the bullet points as opportunities for war stories . . . I thought of you when I got the eyeball roll this AM. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas O. Pauls Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:22 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Flux residue, burnt flux Knowledge management seems to be an issue in many companies, with the new crop of engineers having to re-learn the lessons of old over and over. Back when EMPF was in Indianapolis, they used to offer a two week "boot camp" on the fundamentals of manufacturing. I wrote the module for the cleanliness and residues part and got to occasionally be a guest "drill instructor". I don't know if ACI still offers that course. Guy? What Bill suggests is being addressed to some extent. IPC is working on a handbook (820) which is essentially "The Manufacturing Bible", pulling together as much instructional material as possible to support J-STD-001, A-610 and other documents. That effort is being led by Bryan James, Rockwell, and Sharon Ventress, Army Missle Command. I have been working on the cleaning sections together with Bev Christian and Graham Naisbitt, among others, and I think it goes a long way towards educating people on critical points. Now, if we just had time to read the darn thing. Doug Pauls [log in to unmask] Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> 05/30/2007 09:22 PM Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to [log in to unmask] To [log in to unmask] cc Subject Re: [TN] Flux residue, burnt flux Doug highlights a very key problem in our industry-- the fundamental lack of chemistry education in the typical curriculum of any electronics person in design or on the production line. Thus it is often easy for such folks to have problems with incompatible materials and residues during production. Like it or not, most of the chemists in the industry are found in the labs and tech service groups of the suppliers, with the materials lab folks after that. Should IPC publish a preferred or minimum training curriculum for people considering entering the design or production phases of the industry? I think we should- it could certainly reduce chemical waste and disposal costs for the industry in these times of huge pressures on our manufacturing cost structure. Perhaps others would like to consider/debate this point, resulting in some ideas to put before TAEC. Bill Kenyon Global Centre Consulting 3336 Birmingham Drive Fort Collins, CO 80526 Tel: 970.207.9586 Cell: 970.980.6373 --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- Legal Disclaimer: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. It is intended to be read only by the individual or entity to whom it is addressed or by their designee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are on notice that any distribution of this message, in any form, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete or destroy any copy of this message --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------