You gotta love that Sterno repair method. He should be on the first manned trip to Mars. -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephengregory5849 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:53 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] [LF] [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure It's not just C-clamps. In fact, there's countless web sites out there that have step-by-step "fixes" for bad solder joints on Apple IBook G4 laptop logic boards. One good one is here(complete with photos): http://www.coreyarnold.org/ibook/ His way is to put "shims" on top of the offending component to press down and restore function...not the best fix to be sure, but a lot of owners thanked him for sharing his fix. If you scroll down to the bottom of the page and then click on "128 comments", you will see that there are quite a few owners that are having serious issues with their IBooks. There was one gentleman who had tried the shim method three times with limited results, and then on the fourth repair he realized that he needed to resolder the offending component. Here's his story (with photos) at the below link. I admire his creativity with his use of binoculars! :^) http://www.dse.nl/~yver/logicboardrepair/ Prior to these problems, there was also an issue with the ATI video processor BGA in which Apple instituted an extended repair program to replace the logic boards in certain IBooks. But that warranty expired in 2005. Here's a rather inventive way to repair the BGA on logic boards that are outside the warranty period: http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repai r I wondered if the BGA was lead-free, but could not find the datasheet for it... Steve Gregory ----- Original Message ----- From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] RoHS compliant laptop with early failure Hi Joe, Sorry to say their is an epidemic of of failing laptops. The Danish government is going after Apple, there is a class action against Sony, I also heard about problems with HP and Dell...and to my knowledge, it is all SJ failures. I do not know whether it is LF or laptops getting smaller and with more functionality and running hot-most likley some combination. I have ssen pictures of people using C-clamps on laptop housings to be able to start their laptops- putting pressure on the SJ fracture surfaces to make electrical contact. It seems, DfR has never been heard of by this people. However, your laptop takes the cake for customer...on the other hand, I have heard of DOA's right out of the box at distribution centers. Werner ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---Leadfee Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Leadfree To temporarily stop/(start) delivery of Leadree for vacation breaks send: SET Leadfree NOMAIL/(MAIL) Search previous postings at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------