Hi all, I am here to say that I think some of us lurk because by the time we get to reading our emails it has ran the gamut and someone has already said what we may think. Many times I have read the emails later in the day and thought about answering but my thoughts have already been addressed. Maybe not exactly but close enough that responding would waste everyone's time. I love this forum and think it value is immeasurable. Sally Price Sally Price Senior PCB Designer 125 Crown Point Ct. Grass Valley, CA 95945 Phone: (530) 265-1049 FAX: (530) 265-1055 e-mail: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of George Patrick Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] [DC] Why do people "lurk" w/o participating? Come over to the dark side, Steve :p -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephen gregory Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 06:18 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] [DC] Why do people "lurk" w/o participating? I've been a member in this forum for a number of years even though I'm not a designer. I'm a production engineer and work out on the manufacturing floor. I'm subscribed to four IPC forums, DesignerCouncil, TechNet, LeadFree, and EnviroNet I'm subscribed to the designer council and read every email just to see if I can learn something about why you guys do the things you do to make my life miserable (GRIN). Just kidding... Seriously, I hope to learn something when I read posts from this forum. If I can contribute, I do. Most of the stuff that's talked about is over my head a lot of the time. I secretly would like to become a designer one day, shhh...don't tell anybody. Maybe sometime in the future when I get tired of working on the manufacturing floor. Steve Gregory -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Current vs. Temperature (IPC vs. PCBTEMP) Jack, You know the funniest thing about this forum is... there are over 500 people signed up in this forum... look at the message I get back when I post... "Your message dated Thu, 10 May 2007 10:12:36 -0700 with subject "Re: Current vs. Temperature (IPC vs. PCBTEMP)" has been successfully distributed to the DesignerCouncil list (504 recipients)." Now how come I only see posts by less than 10 people on this thing? I think we have a lot of 'lurkers'... and they could contribute to the conversation.... But they don't for some reason... why is that? I would like to see a roll call of who finds this forum useful and would ask that they voice their opinions more... good dialog and discussion is what makes this organization a worthwhile thing to belong to... Who are you and what makes this organization valuable to you? The whole concept here is to work together to improve the lot of designers... their education, and prestige in the industry... and hopefully we improve the lives of the manufacturers by making better informed design decisions... that make the boards more manufacturable and testable. I would like to hear some other opinions besides the few that are brave enough to speak them... It's your designers council... use it to the benefit of your profession... make a difference... be a part of the solutions... etc... Am I wrong? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+ Tel: (760)597-1500 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World Communications, Inc. 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