Hi All - Maye the backpanel assemblers should be the judge, but if the related technical data is not already available, suggest to consider the short-term need for this information verses time to get it through the review process. If we need Chinese translations of the existing spec fast, that may outweigh including the new technology. I only mentioned this originally to see if it could/should be included. Sorry to put you to trouble on this, I'm a CTO so my job is to stir the pot, it's ok to ignore me when I get out ofline. C.B. Katzko, CTO Meadville Group e-mail [log in to unmask] tel +86 21 5774 6907 fax +86 21 5774 0635 mobile +86 13817362590 "Leesha Peng" <[log in to unmask]> 2007-04-24 13:32 收件人 "Chris Katzko" <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]> 抄送 主题 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: Re : [TGA] Hi all, is t here any specification abo ut "pressfit" tec hnology? thanks! Hi Chris, Thanks very much. So in your opinion, it's worth updating this document, right? Or submit it to 610 committee. How about you, Dave? We have had some other issue like this, such as the test methods discussed by Huawei and Flextronics. Thanks Leesha Peng 彭丽霞 标准开发/设计课程与技术资源项目总监 Director, Standards/Design Programs & Technical Resources 上海市延安西路1088号2303室 邮编:200052 手机:13902994705 ________________________________ From: TGAsia 代表 Chris Katzko Sent: 2007-4-23 (星期一) 23:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: Re : [TGA] Hi all, is t here any specification abo ut "pressfit" tec hnology? thanks! Hi Leesha, I don't mean to say press-fit will be used less, but that some backpanel designs may include surface mount connectors as well. My understanding is the applications would be high-speed, high signal integrety products such as Dacom switch fabric where you have some very high-speed interfaces sensitive to inductance. A couple of years ago we were reviewing a draft standard from IPC/JPCA on datacom interconnection in the WECC group, and this technology was included as I recall, David might be able to recall the exact document. Regards, C.B. Katzko, CTO Meadville Group e-mail [log in to unmask] tel +86 21 5774 6907 fax +86 21 5774 0635 mobile +86 13817362590 Leesha Peng <[log in to unmask]> 发件人: TGAsia <[log in to unmask]> 2007-04-23 21:01 请答复 给 Asia Committe Task Group Forum <[log in to unmask]>; 请答复 给 Leesha Peng <[log in to unmask]> 收件人 [log in to unmask] 抄送 主题 [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is t here any specification abo ut "pressfit" tec hnology? thanks! Dear Chris, Thanks for sharing. Did you imply that the press-fit will be using less and less? I am curious why IPC committee has stopped working on it. Thanks Leesha Peng 彭丽霞 标准开发/设计课程与技术资源项目总监 Director, Standards/Design Programs & Technical Resources 上海市延安西路1088号2303室 邮编:200052 手机:13902994705 ________________________________ From: Chris Katzko [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 2007-4-23 (星期一) 0:29 To: Asia Committe Task Group Forum; Leesha Peng Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: 答复: [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is t here any specification about "pressfit" tec hnology? thanks! Dear Leesha et al, If were going to take this on, it may be importiant to recruit representatives from press-fit Pin/Connector manufactureres in addition to Backpanel MFG to get buy-in on any changes. They would also be able to help define & update Best Practice & Workmanship Standards. Lastly, I think some high performance backpanels are migrating toward surface mount connectors for critical low-loss I/O's we may want to consider including this unless the requirements are already specifed elsewhere (eg, A-610). I believe Teradyne and/or Tyco may be develping such connector systems. C.B. Katzko, CTO Meadville Group e-mail [log in to unmask] tel +86 21 5774 6907 fax +86 21 5774 0635 mobile +86 13817362590 Leesha Peng <[log in to unmask]> 发件人: TGAsia <[log in to unmask]> 2007-04-23 11:53 请答复 给 Asia Committe Task Group Forum <[log in to unmask]>; 请答复 给 Leesha Peng <[log in to unmask]> 收件人 [log in to unmask] 抄送 主题 [TGA] 答复: [TGA] 答复: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is t here any specification about "pressfit" tec hnology? thanks! I think it's a good idea. Hi John and Dave, At this point we should announce it for more interests, right? Leesha Peng 彭丽霞 标准开发/设计课程与技术资源项目总监 Director, Standards/Design Programs & Technical Resources 上海市延安西路1088号2303室 邮编:200052 手机:13902994705 ________________________________ From: TGAsia 代表 Zhang Yali Sent: 2007-4-22 (星期日) 22:10 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TGA] 答复: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is there any specification about "pressfit" technology? thanks! Thanks a lot to Mr.Perry and Mr.Bergman's information, I really appreciate it. Pity that there are no updates of that two documents. It's really important for backpanel. I wonder if there is any possibility to set up subcommittee to update IPC-BP-421 (backplanes with pressfit) and D-422 (design for backplanes) ? Regards! John Perry <[log in to unmask]> 发件人: TGAsia <[log in to unmask]> 2007-04-20 22:45 请答复 给 Asia Committe Task Group Forum; 请答复 给 John Perry 收件人: [log in to unmask] 抄送: 主题: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is there any specification about "pressfit" technology? thanks! Hello Zhang, There was once an IPC D-34 Backplane Subcommittee and they were in the process of developing updated acceptance criteria for press-fit connectors for IPC-BP-421, but that effort did not result in an update to the BP-421document. Instead, the subcommittee updated the acceptance criteria and submitted it to the IPC 7-31b IPC-A-610 task group. The material in section 4.3, Connector Pins, of IPC-A-610D, Acceptability of Electronic Assemblies, represents the updated criteria from the IPC D-34 subcommittee, which disbanded after the publication of IPC-A-610D. Regards, John Perry Technical Project Manager IPC 3000 Lakeside Drive # 309S Bannockburn, IL 60015 [log in to unmask] 1-847-597-2818 (P) 1-847-615-7105 (F) 1-847-615-7100 (Main) ________________________________ From: TGAsia [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bergman Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TGA] Hi all, is there any specification about "pressfit" technology? thanks! Hi Zhang, IPC had a couple of documents IPC-BP-421 (backplanes with pressfit) and D-422 (design for backplanes) Unfortunately they are really old (early 80s) and we could not get the committees to complete an update. Best regards, Dave David W. 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