-----Original Message----- From: Stadem, Richard D. Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:54 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: RE: [TN] IPC 6012 : Outgassing Criteria Good input, Ms. Koo. However, I do not understand the part about the component application engineer leaving. Surely the vendors use a qualification process that does not change with personnel....? -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joyce Koo Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] IPC 6012 : Outgassing Criteria if PCB outgas more (different from the qualified run), you might have uncured laminate. The Tg and CTE may be off too. You may have cracked PTH too... etc.etc. Outgas product can deposite on your insertion connector, relay contact, wire bonding pads, etc.etc. and cause your headach... If you reflow 2x of your board, one side is better looking than the other (shining), you might have outgas...(uncured mask)... you might have attract more ionics and dust.. or attract more moistures.. Outgas usually are bad news... if you qual properly, you should not see any problem...(provide the vendors' application engineer stay with the company... if he changes job, you may want to re-qual again). jk (my 1.74 cents) abcd -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dehoyos, Ramon Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:23 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] IPC 6012 : Outgassing Criteria Wee Mei: Out gassing is the decomposition of the material or the evaporation of the material that can be a problem in an enclosed environment such in submarines or outer space. The gasses can cool and deposit in fiber optics or suffocate personnel. Even some pure metals turn into gas at low pressures, outer space. Most materials provide gas from their make up or outgas, some very little and a few none at all. Ramon -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lum Wee Mei Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:17 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] IPC 6012 : Outgassing Criteria Hello, I was reading this IPC 6012 when I come across Section 3.11.1 Outgassing 1. What actually is outgassing? 2. Why is outgassing critical for PCB? 3. As the PCB consist of so many processes and different materials go into making it, where did the outgassing come from? 4. Is the criteria mandatory for all Class PCB or only specified application? 5. If for only specific application, which application and why? 6. Come to think about it, can the outgassing come also from the coating we use to seal the assembly? Hope someone out there can share with me (novice) on this issue. 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