Hmmm... very well written... I don't think I could have competed with that Jack... :) I have to say I am disappointed that I was not able to attend PCB West, but I think my boss has signed up to send me and the other designer who works here to PCB East this Fall. No Designers Council Booth at PCB West? I thought they would have had one. Well, I heard they had one at 'IPC West'... but I wasn't able to attend that either... too busy, as usual. You are so right about the feeling of working solo but as you branch out some you discover there is a lot more to this career than just a paycheck and BBQ and a 'SAMUEL ADAMS' on the weekends. I do miss Steve's harmonica playing and joking around... he always had a smile and some new thing he was working on to share... the world would be a very interesting place if there were more folks like him. That's kind of why I really appreciate the folks who are involved with the Designers Council... They make life interesting and challenge me to step out of the cubicle from time to time and communicate with others of my kind... :) Uncle Pete, if you're listening in... I'm lookin' forward to a brew and some good conversation like we had in Minneapolis awhile back... hopefully this fall. Jean, you made an impression on me when I competed in top gun in 2000... as has Gary and Rick, and Mary, and Alan, and Andy... over the years you have all had an affect on us and touched our lives and careers and I missed being there wit yas... [Oh Auntie Em'... there's no place like home... <sniff>] Sorry I just had to break up that way overly serious moment with a weee-bit-o-'umor... And Jack... you're definitely the 'Helter Skelter' guy... no doubt. :) Keep smilin' (it makes people wonder what you're up to) Best regads, (New England for regards) Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+ Tel: (760)597-1500 Fax: (760)597-1510 Datron World Communications, Inc. Vista, California -----Original Message----- From: Wolfe, Robert [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:58 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DC] Jax Remix: PCB Design Conference 2007 Jack, Just gotta say you are spot on with that rendition of the experience. I have not been able to attend a West in quite some time and it's been a couple years since a trip to an East. But boy do I sure do miss the experience!!!!! You are absolutely right it was one place we could all get together for the learning, networking and laughing. Very Well Stated. Bob Wolfe -----Original Message----- From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack Olson Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 5:39 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [DC] Jax Remix: PCB Design Conference 2007 Hmmm, I always say I'll write "Jax Conference Remix" if anyone asks about it, so here goes.... (you asked for it) Maybe it was the fact that my flight was cancelled and I arrived an entire day late and then spent the next day with Top Gun so the conference was half over before I even caught my breath, but things just didn't seem the same this year. It was a joy to see old friends, and it really does feel like a family reunion every March, but there was something about it... maybe I shouldn't even try to describe it. (Now I'm nervous, because I don't really want to say anything negative about something I love and truly look forward to every year) but I guess I could start by asking: "Why Do Designers Attend the Design Conference?" First and foremost, they probably justify it for technical reasons. There's a lot happening in our industry, its difficult to keep up, and PCBWest is one place where a Designer at ANY LEVEL of competence can find good instructive classes. So, we go to LEARN. Well, the classes I attended were top-notch, the speakers UPMedia finds for these lectures are incredibly competent, and although I couldn't attend all of them, the ones I heard were GREAT! But that being said, the proceedings disk has only 18 papers. I looked back in my archives for previous years, and I think this is the first time that there was ever less than 20, and 2003 had a whopping 53! Is that a bad sign? Maybe not, if you are getting what you need to keep up. Quality over Quantity, right? Speaking of learning, for quite a number of years I have been one of the judges for the Top Gun Competition, and part of that is an interview. One of the questions I ALWAYS ask is "Where do you go to learn new design techniques? If you are being asked to design something using a technology you are not familiar with, where do you go to learn about it?". Would you believe, no one ever says " I look for it in an IPC guideline", or "I ask the Designer's Coucil", or "I learn in classes right here at the Conference". Nope. No one in my memory has ever answered like I would expect. Its always something more like "I ask the guy who sits next to me" or "I call a friend" or "I call a vendor", or "I look for an application note". Maybe one in twenty ever mentions IPC or a Conference. Isn't that strange? Maybe not, but I thought it was worth mentioning. Speaking of Top Gun, this is the first time that I have ever judged a design that got a PERFECT SCORE in every category! Randy Holt from ODA submitted a gorgeous design, and fully deserved the title. Congratulations, Randy! http://www.pcbwest.com/topgun/ Secondly, I think its important to get away from the daily grind every once in awhile, get a fresh perspective, see what everyone else is up to, and just relax for a moment. I don't even bring my laptop to the Design Conference, because its "me time" and I almost treat it like a vacation (hope my boss isn't reading this) But hey, I want to immerse myself in what is there at the conference, not sit in my hotel room answering email, right? So I got nothing to say but good stuff about that, except to wish that more people would attend, or that we could ALL get together in one HUGE conference that no one in their right mind would ever miss. Ok, so I'm a dreamer. Here's some pics: http://www.pcbwest.com/gallery/ But the networking is invaluable, and you get to see and hear about new things (like did you know one of the Mentor Technology Award winners board had over 2.2km of traces? WOW!) Here's more about that: http://www.mentor.com/company/news/pcbtechawards07.cfm One of the highlights for me was getting to hear a live rendition of "Designer's Lament" by Off-Grid CID http://www.pcbwest.com/song/ and I was fascinated to see one of the instruments being played at the Porch Dawgs concert was designed and created by the musician, who is a board designer. It was an electronic marimba type thing that used alot of complicated coils and serpentine routing, I wish I could show you a link to it but I lost his card. (and what a surprise to learn that Andy's awesome Hawaiian shirts cost $10 at Krogers) I could go on, but this is already gonna be the longest post Ive ever written here (can you top this one, Bill?) so... Thirdly, we like to feel like we're part of something. Many companies don't design enough new products to support more than one circuit board designer, and quite often a single designer ends up supporting more than one company. The end result is that MANY of us work ALONE. Year in, year out, mouse in one hand, coffee in the other, interacting with the world through hi-res displays. So this is a chance to walk away from that environment and gather together, and realize that there other people like us, and for a couple of days feel some comradship (is that a word? dunno, but its a feeling). I just didn't feel that this year, and maybe its because we are getting splintered into more and more little conferences instead of one big one. Now IPC has gone off doing their own thing (which I haven't ever heard another designer say they really like), now I hear about NEW conferences in Chicago and maybe other places. IPC didn't even bother to have a booth at PCBWest so I couldn't even cash my annual "$50 Designer Council Coupon" like I used to, it just doesn't feel like we are all on the same page anymore. I never thought I would be one of those OLD guys who talk about "the good ol' days", but does anyone remember Ken Gilleo's presentation of "The 100 Year History of the PCB"? or the display on the exhibit floor of "The History of PCBS"? or the panel discussion with Happy and Joe and Phil about "what PCBs will be like in 100 years"? or Pork Chops' rendition of a train wreck on harmonica? There wasn't anything like that this year. Maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic, or maybe the glory year of The Design Conference really was 2003. Finally, I heard something this year that really got me thinking. (Uh-Oh!) Maybe the math isn't perfect, but I think the Mentor Graphics User Group Conference had more designers attending than IPC, PCBWest and PCBEast COMBINED! Wha? And here's what I was thinking about THAT: About ten years ago, I published and article in which I stated "User Groups are Dead". I won't try to repeat the whole thing (sigh), but the point of it was that when I first started in this industry, there weren't many places to learn about PCB layout, so I attended every single PCAD User Group meeting and read every issue of PCDesign mag cover to cover. Then The Internet and The Design Conference came along, and my philosophy changed to this, "You know, its pretty easy to learn software, and its a lot more difficult to learn good design practices". So ever since, I have avoided the software conferences and concentrated on the design stuff. NOw I'm wondering if a shift in perception is warranted. The whole PCB design world has pretty much polarized into "Cadence People" and "Mentor People" (and kudos to the renegades who are cranking out freeware and open source tools, highest respect to YOU), but maybe people already know which umbrella they are going to stand under, and it makes more sense to concentrate on that umbrella. What I mean is, I know we are gonna be on Mentor's leash forever (here at Caterpillar, anyway), I know I'm already a pretty good designer, and I know where to go if I get stuck, so maybe what I DON'T know is how Mentor is going to influence my life. So maybe User Groups have come back to life, because that software IS our life. Maybe that's why a huge majority are attending the two big software conferences rather than design conferences? I'm thinking Mentor is feeling pretty confident now, and when you notice that their booth is smaller than the CAM350 booth, that says something. (confidence.) So the last user group conference I attended was VeriBest in Boulder, a LONG time ago. Maybe its time I check in with MUG. So, How was IPCWest? Was anyone there? Love ya, Jbro (aka "Helter Skelter") -=-=-=- On 4/11/07, Stout.Jean <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > So Jack, since there are no answers to this email, how was PCB West? > > Jean > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- DesignerCouncil Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8d To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil. 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