why we all outsourcing or spin off... but the Sony are get into the market, pull back and consolidate into centrolizaed control? that is something new...(Vertical integration are coming back?) jk abcd -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Bill Kasprzak Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:43 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] APEX >From what I know, Sony has obviously been a player in pick and place but only sold to Asian markets. Now They want to enter the US market. "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> 02/26/2007 03:22 PM Please respond to TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond to "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]> To [log in to unmask] cc Subject Re: [TN] APEX >From my friends who were at APEX, they are all telling me about the new pick and place machines that Sony had on display. From what they are saying, they were the highlight of the show, placing umpteen zillion parts per hour with nary a lost part, including 0402s and 0201s. Something we are definitely going to check out. I did not even know Sony made pick and place machines! -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:11 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] APEX TechNetters, I am not a process engineer, in fact I am not an engineer of any kind, but a scientist, so I had a different perspective. I found that the exhibition had some nifty pieces of equipment that were either new or I did not know about. These included, but are not limited to: Struers (make x-sectioning chemicals and equipment) - They showed me a system where you can put a sample in a special holder, put it in an x-ray machine, zero in on the exact spot that you want to cross-section via the x-ray image, and then take it out and put it in an automatic grinder/polisher and it will prepare a sample to that exact spot. Akrometrix (make the Thermoire) - They now make a microfringe projector which allows warpage measurement of components down to a 1 mm x 1 mm. They also make another Thermoire add-on, a digital image correlation (DIC) module that allows simultaneous warpage measurements of a part on a board and the board AND measure x and y expansion. Soltec (strain gage data acquisition) - They showed me their latest 16 and 32 channel data acquisition equipment. ECI Technology (make SERA testers) - Have said they will send their latest recipes. Assure me that I should be able to measure OSP thickness using a different solution. So for me the show was very fruitful. And of course there were the committee meetings and papers. But the main reason I go is to see my friends, but you can never tell a boss that! Bev RIM -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Buetow Sent: February 26, 2007 11:33 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] APEX At the risk of disagreeing with my good friend Phil, I can't remember a show where more new machines were introduced. Yes, many were based on previous platforms, and yes, Cogiscan's RFID feeder was highly interesting, but there were some other breakthroughs, too. One was Viscom's combination AOI/AXI. Vitronics added a software program to its 6745 selective machine that is superb both in design and use. I also saw a couple of really slick dispensers. The problem is, some of the existing machines are already so good we do get a bit jaded and forget how impressive the engineering really is. 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