Ali, This is at least the third time you have asked this question. I think a lot of us are having a hard trying to understand exactly what you are asking, but I'll give it a shot. If you are asking if there is some way to compare different panel layouts, there is a software called "KwickFit" that will optimize the panel layout and give you a yeild percentage of the panel. Go to: http://www.micromeg.com/ And check out the software. -Steve Gregory- -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ali Koca Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:53 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] any idea about standart panel application Dear Technetters, I have a question about standart panel application. As you know that first step CAM , 2. step panel cutting in pcb production. sta. pn. appl. is for panel cutting section. I mean we have a few standart dimension. there are more than one pcb on every panel. We adjust places of every pcb at CAM depart before we put pcb on standart panel. We try to use all place of panel minimium lose. That mean pcbs positions are adjusted for stable dimension. But sometimes we must design new dimension panel for special order of pcb. That mean panel dimension is adjusted for pcb. Both of situation the target is get a minimum panel lose and get using max. I request that can you compare both of them of their advantage and disadvantage Best Regards Ali KOCA Process Engineer BASKI DEVRE SAN ve TIC LTD STI Ceyhan Sk. No:10 34896 Pendik-Istanbul-Turkey Tel: 00 90 216 3901036 (4 Hat/Line) 00 90 216 4836560 (4 Hat/Line) Fax:00 90 216 3544941 00 90 216 491 Gsm: 00 90 533 6579897 00 90 533 7480014 E-MAIL : [log in to unmask] WEB : www.baskidevre.com.tr --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------