Inge, we're on XRF and the technology is far from producing highly accurate results for the electronic comps. You pick lead from the ceramic body, from the machined pins, all the good stuff that is exempt. So we are using it as a screening device. You would never be in confidence that you catch 0.01% Cd, even 0.1% lead comes and goes if you shoot the same sample several times. We have tried to check the solder pot and got very different readings from one side of the sample to the other. So the tool is fantastic for the exempt industries, that want to find lead and anything under 2% is rejected, but when you look for low levels of contaminants, good luck ! Still a good and handy tool for not-so-exempts, but you cannot swear that you are below the admitted levels. Just my point of view, Ioan -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ingemar Hernefjord (KC/EMW) Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:54 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Conflicting results... As far as I can see, the two methods should be nearly equal in terms of accuracy. I tried to figure out which one is most accurate, but could not find such conclusions. We use AAS mostly, sometimes XRF, but I've never compared them in terms of errors. Will be interesting to see what Bev and others have to say. Not being and expert, I go lost among all possible variants on measurement methods for these both instruments. E.g. Below: http://www.niton.com/docs/OSS-1.pdf You check solder pots with these instruments? Not too bad. If you need more, I can ask a friend, who has been working with both methods for 20 years. Inge -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rodney Miller Sent: den 7 september 2006 21:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Conflicting results... We have been working to resolve some solder pot controls... Not to sound really stupid, but how much inherent error can there be between and XRF analysis and AAS? results...] One says I'm compliant, the other says no... who do I believe? We have a system in place to check pot analysis every month and its beginning to drive me a little nuts.... Rodney L. Miller Tri-onics Inc Highland / Shanghai Integrity and Solutions for Electronic Outsourcing --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------