Hi Suresh, The reason for delamination could be due to various causes. From the description given below it is not clear whether you are able to see the delamination or "popcorn" effect from the outer layers after your outer-layer etch process or the delamination only occurs after the boards have been subjected to a thermal excursion like HASL, thermal shock, IR reflow or wave-solder process. If the delamination is occurring over the copper surface on the inner-layers, it is most probably the adhesion between the prepregs & oxide-coated copper surface is poor. This could be due to poor or insufficient oxide coating or the lamination parameters are not fine tuned, so the material is not fully cured. Since you are saying both the Isola & Nelco materials exhibit this phenomena, then it is most unlikely to be a material issue. You could run a DSC test to check the Tg of the material to see if it fully cured or perform a TMA test to see the T260C, time to delamination. If these numbers appear to be quite low than the vendors spec. then you have an issue with the lamination processing parameters. If you are seeing the delamination after the boards have been subjected to a thermal excursion then there are other factors that would come to play, like shelf life & storage conditions of the boards, how long the boards have been kept & whether any baking was done prior to subjecting to any thermal excursion, moisture absorption due to the hygroscopic nature of the FR-4 material. Or if the boards have been subjected to a Lead Free process & the laminate material used is not compatible to this process etc., Pls provide more details as to the exact occurrence of the delamination & we may be able to share more info on this........ Thanks & Best Regards, Krishnan C SANMINA-SCI -----Original Message----- From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of T Suresh Babu Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:53 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] IPC webcast - Electroplating Technologies - 7/27/06 Dear Friends, I am new member for Technet.We are experiencing the delamination in the multilayer ten layer and above.We us Isola and Nelco prepeg we are experiencing this problem with both materials.The delamination over the copper area on innerlayer.We use black oxide for the innerlayer and vacuum press for lamination. Can any one share your experience. 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