There is a picture and a part dimension picture on the datasheet that shows the metal jacket around the part body that creates a flat surface for pick up and two legs to prevent rolling. As long and the two legs on the jacket and the leads are on the same plane, I agree in theory there should not be a problem. Are there any special pick up nozzle requirements for these? -Jim -----Original Message----- From: Martin Butcher [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:26 AM To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; James Verrette Subject: RE: [TN] Leadformed metal can crystals with SMT jacket Hi James, If the part comes in on tape'n'reel it shouldn't be a problem for pick'n'place machines to slap down. I don't see the "clip" in the drawing, just a recommended pad layout. We have placed parts like these with 1997 vintage machines. Regards, Martin -----Original Message----- From: James Verrette [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:50 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Leadformed metal can crystals with SMT jacket For cost an board space reasons we need to use a leadformed 2x6 mm metal can crystal with a SMD clip like the part shown here: http://www.citizencrystal.com/images/pdf/ks-cmj206.pdf Not the exact manufacturer, but mechanically equivalent part in a different frequency from Oscilent. Is there anyone out there that is using this type of package with the clip successfully in a high volume application? How are you putting it down? Jim Verrette Electrical Engineer --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8e To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 -----------------------------------------------------